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Gobsmacked at the jogger on the news..

981 replies

KurriKurri · 08/08/2017 15:16

Who pushed that woman over into the path of a bus.

What a complete and utter wanker - who the hell does that?

Thank goodness she was OK (physically at least- she'll probably be rather nervous about walking along the pavement now Sad

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squoosh · 11/08/2017 13:39

The telegraph article says that she tried to talk to him when he went past again. Why would you do that? Why were the police not phoned and there already?

The adrenaline and anger was probably coursing through her veins.

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 11/08/2017 13:40

I would have hoped some other cctv wpuld have picked him up but clearly not going by this appeal.

NoLoveofMine · 11/08/2017 13:40

She doesn't need to have an explanation for challenging the man who pushed her onto the road into moving traffic anyway.

NoLoveofMine · 11/08/2017 13:42

That's true Drink and a concern in terms of this case but hopefully the correct assailant will be identifiable by others including the victim.

Mustang27 · 11/08/2017 13:47

Sorry I really didn't mean to make it sound like I was questioning her in any way. I just don't think I could have been as brave, I really do think it was brave of her. I wish someone had tried to huckle him and get the police called when he returned. Was he trying to see what damage he had done, it's awful.

MeanAger · 11/08/2017 13:49

I like to think I would have been able to confront him under the same circumstances but knowing myself as well as I do I truthfully don't think I would have been brave Enough. I don't trust my own judgement enough to categorically state that I have been wronged. Even in the given scenario I know I would doubt myself. How mad Is that? I also wouldn't trust myself not to get screechy and flustered if I did confront him and he responded blaming me (which is very likely). I'd be afraid of embarrassing myself. So would avoid making a scene.

Teddy1970 · 11/08/2017 13:51

Would it be possible for him to fake his whereabouts in this day and age?

53rdWay · 11/08/2017 13:52

Yeah, why on earth did he run back the same way? Can't have been a sudden attack of conscience or he'd have spoken to her. Wanted to see results of pushing someone into traffic? Felt like no force on earth could or should get in the way of running where he wanted? Ugh.

Mustang27 · 11/08/2017 13:57

I don't think that he was jogging has anything to do with it. I think he intended on hurting someone(a woman) that day. It looks like he runs towards her in the clip. Obviously that's just conjecture though.

Yeah I'm interested in that too Teddy he is clearly very wealthy can he make this go away???

SandyDenny · 11/08/2017 13:59

The person named in the papers certainly looks like the person on the CCTV but it seems he can prove it wasn't him.

I hope this isn't case of trial by social media and witchhunt of an innocent man. The wording of the denial is a bit OTT to me but that may be legaleese - who says the have "irrefutable proof" of something, wouldn't you just say it wasn't you as you weren't in the country at the time? I may be wrong but the wording sounds like protesting too much imo

Mustang27 · 11/08/2017 13:59

All those points and more @MeanAger would be the reason I couldn't.

NoLoveofMine · 11/08/2017 14:01

I'd probably be the same MeanAger and Mustang27 but good on the woman for challenging him after all that.

HelenaDove · 11/08/2017 14:04

Is it possible as a PP has said upthread that this may have only been persued at the womans insistence.

Do they want to catch him?

Teddy1970 · 11/08/2017 14:10

He doth protest too much...his statement was a bit OTT, time will tell but good on her for challenging him!

53rdWay · 11/08/2017 14:19

Worth remembering that we have no idea whether the man arrested is the man in the CCTV, and it's not fair (and could potentially damage could proceedings) to speculate on here on whether he sounds guilty or not.

Plus if the man arrested actually was out of the country, that's easy to prove and fairly conclusive.

EmilyDickinson · 11/08/2017 14:20

If the man who was questioned was in the US at the time that will be very easy to prove (flight records, mobile phone location, witness statements from people in the US). There would be no reason to say he was there if he wasn't. Based on that he must just look similar to the jogger. Trouble is I suspect that lots of men look similar to him so if the police do track down the right person how can they prove its him? The case will rest almost entirely on identification evidence and I don't think that the picture they have is clear enough to be sure that they have the right person even if they later arrest someone with no alibi.

I can think of additional evidence that would help but suspect the jogger will be getting rid of that if possible. It's a shame police weren't in the scene earlier and that the CCTV wasn't released immediately. If the woman had been killed or seriously injured I'm sure it would have been, but it's extraordinarily good luck and quick reactions by the bus driver that saved her so I feel that it should have been taken more seriously.

Teddy1970 · 11/08/2017 14:21

I wondered that Emily there must be hundreds of men like him, where do you start looking?

HelenaDove · 11/08/2017 14:21

53rd Yes it is possible that a case of mistaken identity could have occured.

A. video not released to public until 3 months after incident.

B. description of age was put out as being 30s Clearly isnt.
C. now possible mistaken identity.

MeanAger · 11/08/2017 14:26

I am guessing that the police had a lot of people giving this man's name for them to have arrested him.

LineysRun · 11/08/2017 14:26

The police also say it was a mistake to have corrected the age from 41 to 50.

It's now back to 41.

EmilyDickinson · 11/08/2017 14:27

The police are relying on members of the public recognising the jogger from the photo. There's no other way of finding the man concerned. I would hope that in the days that followed the incident they had a presence in the area in the hope that he was a runner with a regular route. I'm sure he's changed his route and his clothes now.

MeanAger · 11/08/2017 14:27

Despite the age description not matching his age. Odd that so many people would name the same person despite his age not matching the age given out.

HelenaDove · 11/08/2017 14:28

Funny how mistakes like that seem to freqently occur when a woman is a victim.

EmilyDickinson · 11/08/2017 14:35

I assume that the estimate of the man's age came from the woman who was the victim. She only saw him for a short time. His hair appears dark rather than grey or balding and if he was a regular runner then he might have looked younger than his actual age. There's quite a range when you get to 30s and 40s of people who look younger, older or their actual age. I suppose the age estimate the police gave out really meant, appearance is of someone in their 30s but could be someone who is older but appears younger.

EmilyDickinson · 11/08/2017 14:37

Meanager have they said that "lots" of people named the man they arrested? If it's a case of mistaken identity it must be dreadful for him.