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Gobsmacked at the jogger on the news..

981 replies

KurriKurri · 08/08/2017 15:16

Who pushed that woman over into the path of a bus.

What a complete and utter wanker - who the hell does that?

Thank goodness she was OK (physically at least- she'll probably be rather nervous about walking along the pavement now Sad

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Ceto · 09/08/2017 16:52

I suspect that he returned to the scene simply because that was his usual route back to his starting point, and because he was so arrogant that he didn't feel he'd done anything wrong so it wouldn't be a problem.

passmethewineplease · 09/08/2017 16:57

This is really annoying me.

People are even saying about the "poor man" who was tripped.

Why cant people see it for what it is? Angry

MsHarry · 09/08/2017 17:00

Who is pass ?
Someone on another thread a few weeks ago said that a man on a tub in London told her to "Get the way you fat c*t!" I was Shock but it seems maybe this is a thing. I was walking my dog earlier and for the first time paid extra attention to the people passing me, would never really worry me in a public place in broad daylight!

MsHarry · 09/08/2017 17:00

*tube

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 09/08/2017 17:20

For arguments sake, let's say she did stick her foot out to trip him - he has the quickest reaction in the world to that, he should be studied by science for his reaction time!

Can't believe people think that that's what she did. They're either thick or hate women.

Why is it that whenever a man fucks up people fall over themselves to blame the nearest woman?

LineysRun · 09/08/2017 17:22

It was interesting today in supermarket. A guy a few years older than me - so not elderly by any stretch - was walking alongside me and started to veer into my path. Deliberately. No need for it. We were in a massive wide exit aisle. OH to my right.

Because of this thread, I thought, 'fuck this, why am I even thinking of moving out of his way or hanging back? He can walk in a fucking straight line, just like I am.'

I stood my ground, in the sense of carried on walking, stared him in the face and smiled, put my hand on OH's back (he was pushing the trolley, daydreaming), and the man's face was absolutely thunderous.

Twat man slowed down and we walked on. Twat man had six feet to his left, but yet he had to veer right, into my path or into my side.

It IS a thing.

Next time I'll say something. But one step at a time.

MsHarry · 09/08/2017 17:32

Some people do struggle with balance due to medical conditions but this guy was jogging and pushing is not a way of steadying oneself!

LineysRun · 09/08/2017 17:38

If you struggle with balance you say something, you make eye contact, you don't deliberately speed up to barge into or in front of a woman, you just don't do that.

And as for that jogger - it was a full on assault. No ifs, no buts.

Sick of seeing it.

Jux · 09/08/2017 17:39

We know he only did it because she was a woman and that he wouldn't do it to a man, because there was a man only seconds before, and the bastard didn't do it to the man.

So, random attack on a woman by a seriously unpleasant man who sees women as natural victims on whom he can take out his violent proclivities. Charming.

passmethewineplease · 09/08/2017 17:40

msharry the MET posted it on their Facebook page and that's where people were commenting blaming the woman.

MagdalenLaundry · 09/08/2017 17:40

You can see him turning towards her with both hands out
And it was a hell of a push to send her flying like that

Fluffypinkpyjamas · 09/08/2017 17:53

Just read the comments on the MET facebook post about it. Wow, so that is where all the stupid people are. I had to stop reading. Awful.

Hygge · 09/08/2017 18:43

Lineys - I had a similar thing in a supermarket last week.

I was walking with DS, down the main aisle that runs the length of the shop, right down the middle.

A man reached the end of the side aisle he was in, saw us, made eye contact, and kept coming right at us.

We had nowhere to move to because of other people, so we either had to keep going or stop and back up a bit.

Usually I stop but it was the way he stared at me as he aimed for us. I just switched sides because he would have hit DS, and kept going and we bottlenecked for the same gap and I got it. Instead of hitting DS he clanged his trolley into ours.

He made this tutting noise and I said "It's not like you couldn't see us before you tried to push us out of the way" without turning around.

I'm not sure he was being malicious but he definitely expected us to make way and even step backwards for him.

I've also been pushed over in a shop. I'd stepped to one side to allow someone else to get through a small aisle, which was partly blocked by a man looking at something on a shelf. He turned to move and clearly saw me, started to walk anyway, and because I had nowhere to go, he bumped into me.

But instead of stopping like a normal person, he kept walking forwards and pushing against me so I lost my balance and fell. He just stepped over me and walked out.

Thinking about it, when I used to work in a pub and had to collect glasses, the amount of (mostly) men who would aim for me while I was carrying a basket full of glasses and make me move for them was horrendous as well.

NoLoveofMine · 09/08/2017 18:47

Quite Fluffy; it's astounding how desperate so many are to blame the woman and excuse the man. One man even went to the extent of uploading a freeze frame of the video claiming it proved the woman was trying to trip the man up - even though this was after he'd pushed her over when she was in the process of falling (which he of course declined to mention). It's quite dispiriting that even when such an attack on a woman is caught on CCTV there are high numbers of people who blame her and excuse the attacker.

NoLoveofMine · 09/08/2017 18:49

I also feel awful for the woman, who was just walking somewhere when not only was she pushed over by this man and inches from being severely injured or killed but is now being accused of provoking it by numerous people on social media.

MsHarry · 09/08/2017 18:49

I heard on radio news that the many people have been contacting police today over the video clips, let's hope they get him!

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 09/08/2017 18:58

Sadly I fear that CCTV footage of a man beating a woman to a pulp could be released and people would still find a way to blame her for it. I think it was Germaine Greer who said women can't begin to know how much men hate them.

MrsDustyBusty · 09/08/2017 19:03

It's why men rape with impunity. Even with a video of a man committing a vicious, unprovoked attack on a woman, excuses must be found for him, blame must be placed on her by any means.

I mean, you don't even have to believe her - you can see what happened.

PelorusJack · 09/08/2017 19:07

I'd firstly like to explain that I'm at the hairdressers and that's the only reason I've read the Daily Mail Blush but it's got an article in it where they have a quote that sergeant Mat Knowles made yesterday saying

" This is a deliberate act on his behalf. His hands come across and push her. She does not know this man. She walks this way to the tube to go to work everyday and has never seen him "

So that's clear cut as it can be and should end any speculation about whether it was an accidental bump or not.

I know you shouldn't believe anything that's in the daily mail but it looks like a direct quote 🤷🏻‍♀️

LineysRun · 09/08/2017 19:07

Hygge, I'm going to adopt a phrase to say to these men, loudly and clearly. Something like, Dont walk into me, it's unnecessary and it's violent and its on cctv

TheEmmaDilemma · 09/08/2017 20:02

I don't think they ever would have released the video without being sure. Hence my references to the delay with reviewing the video.

But I'm glad that the amount of media attention this has gained means that they have made their statements over this clearer.

I hope this will stop people making ridiculous excuses for that poor excuse of human being.

HelenaDove · 09/08/2017 20:57

Justaboy i think certain paps who have taken upskirt photos hasnt helped with that sort of thing.

It is TOTALLY the fault of the bloke who decides to do something that abhorrent yes but these sorts of blokes will have normalized it in their heads thinking that if the paps do it then its alright for them to do it.

Anlaf · 09/08/2017 21:07

This is horrifying. He really does look to veer towards her after he passes the man.

My anecdata - was walking ok rushing through City of London at lunchtime and was about to pass a man, when he slowed and braced himself and RAMMED his elbow into the side of my arm. I got knocked to one side, the women behind me gasped, it BLOODY HURT, and I shouted back at him. He had stopped, didnt turn back, just slowly hinged his elbow back in and started walking along again.

I didn't report it - who would believe it wasn't an accident?

HelenaDove · 09/08/2017 21:08

I wish the MET would put out a statement about victim blaming. Or at least collate some if the names of those on fb doing the victim blaming so she can sue for defamation later on should she want to.

RolfNotRudolf · 09/08/2017 21:09

That poor man, jogging along, minding his own business - and then that woman comes along and deliberately bounces herself off his body and makes herself fall into the road - bet she's after compensation. And what was she doing out at that time of day anyway?
I mean, it couldn't possibly be the man's fault could it? Who has ever heard of male violence against women?
Hmm