Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Gobsmacked at the jogger on the news..

981 replies

KurriKurri · 08/08/2017 15:16

Who pushed that woman over into the path of a bus.

What a complete and utter wanker - who the hell does that?

Thank goodness she was OK (physically at least- she'll probably be rather nervous about walking along the pavement now Sad

OP posts:
Thread gallery
8
pongoismyhero · 08/08/2017 19:12

It's also quite 'London' behaviour to maintain your line and not stop and look back at commuters you've slightly bumped into or made change direction.

I'm a Londoner. I assure you if I knocked someone into the road because I was being an arsehole who thought the pavement belonged to me, I would look back.

InvisibleKittenAttack · 08/08/2017 19:14

no way was that an accident - if you accidentally bump into someone and send them into the path of an oncoming bus, you stop to see if they are ok - at least stop for a beat while you see what just happened. If you weren't expecting to bump into another person, then you would have been stunned by doing so to at least stop a second.

I hope he turns himself in, social media isn't going to be nice if someone tracks him down...

Ceto · 08/08/2017 19:16

May was a long time ago. Why does it occur to the police only now to find that bastard?

It won't have. The answer may well lie in the reports of similar incidents which they are investigating; and/or they may not have wanted to go public on it because they didn't want to scare him into doing a disappearing act.

MaidOfStars · 08/08/2017 19:16

My first response, based on the single occasion I've had to try to stop someone falling after they wandered last minute into my path as I was running past, was that he's tried to sidle/turn away while grabbing her to stop her falling. Collisions happen (even if they shouldn't) - people are glued to phones, joggers close their eyes to count/grit teeth, anyone can veer in their path a little. If he was looking down at the floor, given his speed, he could have been on her before he realised.

However, I can't explain the shove with his other hand, other than a missed grapple at catching her other arm.

But what makes me believe my first response is wrong is that he didn't stop. When I had both hands on the woman I turned sideways, I stopped, obviously, to check she was OK, to apologise even though it wasn't my fault and to generally make good the situation. He doesn't. So I think I agree with the majority here.

KurriKurri · 08/08/2017 19:17

'London beahviour' - are London people not human beings then ? Here in the sticks people stop when they think they might have accidentally hurt someone it is natural and instinctive - can't believe Londoners are a different species, all the Londoners I know wouldn't dream of behaving like this git.

OP posts:
InvisibleKittenAttack · 08/08/2017 19:17

oh and looking at the 'close up' photo of him taking from the bus doors, he doesn't appear to be wearing headphones, so in the unlikely event it was a complete accident and he didn't mean to push her, and some how avoided the natural instinct to stop when bumped into someone, he couldn't fail to hear the noise from the bus swerving and stopping, people getting off the bus etc.

Not stopping makes it look unlikely it was an accident.

GlobeDaughter · 08/08/2017 19:17

"He clearly ran into her, veering off of his own path and into hers. He had already jogged past the man no problems but yes, he clearly aimed for her."

^this. The clear shadow line dividing the pavement clearly demonstrates this. The tosser will be found and will hopefully get prison time.

Littlefuckers · 08/08/2017 19:17

In the first clip I watch, I thought he looked as if he was going to push the first person he jogged past, saw it was a man, changed his mind and went for the woman. It's very deliberate and to knock her off her feet like that must have had some force. Poor woman.

HappyAxolotl · 08/08/2017 19:18

Look where the shadow falls on the pavement and where the kerb is. Look at where the walking man is in relation to these then look at the woman's position. She is maybe a foot further to the right at most.

Then look at the runner and where he is in relation to the walking man and the bridge wall. There is plenty of room for the runner not to be anywhere near the woman. The pavement is broad.

Then use the shadow and kerb lines again to see how the runner is going in a straight line then goes off at an angle to run at the woman, despite nothing blocking his original course.

Sadly I did wonder when the police released the footage 3 months later whether there had been other people attacked and it not caught on film (the still pic of the runner from the side is clearly taken out of a bus side door so I'm guessing the film came from the bus cameras too rather than fixed cameras on the bridge) and the police have a fair idea who the man is but the more victims they can find, the more chance of getting him to court. And it looks like that might be the case.

HelenaDove · 08/08/2017 19:19

www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/shock-video-of-putney-bridge-shove-sparks-flood-of-complaints-to-police-over-jogger-rage-a3606581.html

Quite a bit of the victim blaming ive seen on twitter is coming from women.

Mustang27 · 08/08/2017 19:23

He shoves her in a rage for getting in his way??? Maybe did look like he deliberately ran towards her though. Makes me feel sick.

WeAllHaveWings · 08/08/2017 19:26

I cant see her doing anything wrong/different to the man in front of her other than being slightly in the shadow area. The slow motion video shows her keeping an even stride and her feet are just waking/no potential tripping action. There was plenty of room for the jogger between her and the wall but he choose to not adjust his line and push her forcibly with both hands into the path of a bus!!!!!! Fair enough he couldn't see the bus as it was behind him, but bloody hell it was a forceful push.

Hope they identify him and he gets charged with the strongest offence possible to help discourage this "London" behaviour.

annandale · 08/08/2017 19:31

God it's horrible Sad

I find a tiny crumb of comfort in him being known as 'the jogger' forever - I have no doubt that he considers himself to be a superb RUNNER.

KurriKurri · 08/08/2017 19:32

I see that Standard article talks about aggressive joggers - are any of the joggers behaving aggressively women? Or are joggers in general being blamed for what is essentially exclusively male aggressive behaviour on this particular bridge ? We need to call it what it is and pin down whether this is jogging rage or male rage.

OP posts:
scaryclown · 08/08/2017 19:38

I have a feeling he tried to cross in front of the man, couldn't because he didn't understand the relative speed, and tried to the same with the woman and misjudged again with the woman moving over, and she was the second, maybe to his perception, more deliberate blocking of his intended move towards the bus lane.. It's really difficult to tell without his p.o.v. But that's about intention not about whether his reaction was appropriate..

MumIsRunningAMarathon · 08/08/2017 19:40

Wonder if it turns out like one of those Facebook videos.... where looking at it from one perspective it looks like this..... but completely different from another perspective/angle/shot

QueenLaBeefah · 08/08/2017 19:42

Hope they catch him and throw the book at him.

The level of victim blaming and minimising make violence is, yet again, sadly predictable.

MeanAger · 08/08/2017 19:44

So you mean from another angle she was pointing a gun at him or holding a sign saying "see if you can push me over"? Or maybe this was a fantasy role play situation where they're actually a couple and she gets her kicks out of near death experiences. Hmm

Tazerface · 08/08/2017 19:45

scaryclown - he's not sprinting he's jogging. The force that she falls to the ground is nothing like an arms out to block collision movement.

SilverHawk · 08/08/2017 19:46

I'm not sure if it's the police or the newspaper that give an age range of mid to late 30s.
I think he's 40s to mid 50s. He has the 'solidness' that comes with age.
He is probably sitting there preening about being taken for a much younger man.
Think back to the 5th May, everyone.

scaryclown · 08/08/2017 19:47

Also its only 3 or 4 running strides between the two pedestrians, at speed, so it wouldn't have been that easy to change direction quickly especially if you have already judged badly

Tazerface · 08/08/2017 19:47

And you seem to be really keen to explain his behaviour - he might be really really stupid but what is it that suggests to you he might have tried this with the man?!

ScrambledSmegs · 08/08/2017 19:49

I've been barged and knocked over by joggers and cyclists, and I've been barged and knocked over AS a jogger and cyclist.

The common thread between all of the incidents is that I'm female and the people who knocked into me were male.

ClamBakeSnake · 08/08/2017 19:49

Can't believe people trying to explain it away when the video evidence is so damning.

ClamBakeSnake · 08/08/2017 19:50

If it was in any way accidental (it wasn't) he would at the very least stopped if only for a second, or turned around, to see what had happened to the person he collided with.