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We're not on a 17 day vacation, not us. We have meetings and calls! Now where did that golf ball go?...Trump cont.

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MicrowaveSpy · 07/08/2017 08:51

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Lweji · 10/08/2017 16:18

Compare Trump in 1999 with 45 now.

He was still talking out of his arse.

But he was almost 20 years younger.

AcrossthePond55 · 10/08/2017 16:39

Pain, I thought the article was interesting, but that as with many articles about 'The US' it doesn't make mention of the vastness of the US and the huge differences between regions. The childhood of someone raised in working class New Jersey is going to be so different from the childhood of someone raised in white collar Southern California or the coal-mining Appalachians of Tennessee that they might as well be different countries.

My sons are 'children of the 90s' and her article certainly doesn't reflect their upbringing or their education (at school or at home). They were raised in a liberal, white collar home in California and their outlook on life (and the world) reflects that. My niece and nephew were raised in a white collar, conservative home in Iowa. Their views are diametrically opposed to my sons' and reflect their upbringing.

I used to lump all the people of the UK together as 'British' and thought of them all as the same. I've learnt through MN that there are many differences in the experiences and the people and the regions of the UK. That living in 'the North' may be different than living in 'the South'. That a Scot or a Welshman/woman may be raised differently or feel differently about issues than an Englishman/woman. In other words, you all don't drink tea, say 'Pip pip, cheerio' and curtsey to the Queen. Just as we all don't swig beer or Coke and sing 'Proud to be an American' (God, I hate that song).

I wish more people understood that there are many, many different 'Americas' within the US. We are one Country, but we are different people. I feel her article only contributed to the stereotype of Americans as ignorant, jingoistic twerps who need to be 'educated' about the rest of the world. Many of us already understand that we are a 'Global' world and have raised our children to be good citizens not only of the US, but of the rest of the world, too.

AcrossthePond55 · 10/08/2017 16:39

Whew! I now yield my soapbox to the next speaker. Blush

annandale · 10/08/2017 17:21

Absolutely true Across [climbs on soapbox] and yet there sometimes are cultural norms that people cluster around in particular cultures - they won't all conform to the norm but they will see themselves in relation to that cultural norm. So for example it is truly terrifying how ignorant, prejudiced and clumsy the average English person is about the Republic of Ireland, Northern Ireland and why this ignorance might be an issue - its amply proven on many MN threads. Obviously I think of myself as much less ignorant then the average, or i wouldn't bring it up, and i have a history degree FFS. But I have still managed to piss off a few Irish and NI friends with ignorance on the subject. I have finally learned that basically if you are English it's better to keep your mouth shut and your ears open on Irish subjects because the average cultural level of knowledge is so low that even knowing a fair bit makes you dumb.

orlantina · 10/08/2017 17:43

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2m2 minutes ago
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Mitch, get back to work and put Repeal & Replace, Tax Reform & Cuts and a great Infrastructure Bill on my desk for signing. You can do it!

Grin

What's he doing at the moment?

badbadhusky · 10/08/2017 17:54

If it bothers you that much, Donny, get off your own fat ass and back to work. Hmm

Lweji · 10/08/2017 17:57

What's he doing at the moment?
He's sitting at his desk holding his, ahem, bigly pen.
Keep up.

orlantina · 10/08/2017 18:03

Doesn't the US Senate and Congress have a 'break' - like the UK Parliament does?

cozietoesie · 10/08/2017 18:04

They have a 'Recess', Yes. He's been mean to Mitch, though - this is him trying to make amends. Wink

badbadhusky · 10/08/2017 18:04

Funny that Don is expecting others to work during recess when he can't be arsed even when it isn't. Lazy boy indeed.

Lweji · 10/08/2017 18:04

AFAIK they're on recess, but not in a way that Trump could appoint a new AG. Grin

Roussette · 10/08/2017 18:12

Good post Across

Trump has a nerve telling McC to get back to work when he's pratting about on his golf course

cozietoesie · 10/08/2017 18:54

He was trying to be nice to him, I 'think'.

AcrossthePond55 · 10/08/2017 19:23

Yeah, right, Scrotus. "Put it on my desk".

Is that the same desk that you aren't going to see for 2 more weeks because you're too busy golfing and tweeting on vacation in NJ?

Congress reconvenes on 5 Sept. Keep tweeting asshole and hopefully you'll really piss them off!

Lweji · 10/08/2017 19:34

They had a session on the 8th. They can't be away for long, so they're not on official recess.

Senate

Chamber Action
The Senate met at 12:30:31 p.m. in pro forma session, and adjourned at 12:31:00 p.m. until 3:30 p.m., on Friday, August 11, 2017.––––––
Grin

www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2017/08/08

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/08/2017 19:35

Thanks across, I didn't think it was representative of all Americans because any "viewpoint" piece can't represent all experiences. Even two people from the same country, town, street, house, family etc wouldn't share views on everything!

If it's of any comfort, I certainly didn't think after reading that article
that all Americans are unaware of history/global perspectives but it did make me realise that I did think of England and the US as being the leaders of freedom and probably didn't take in to account how much of that was national narrative.

cozietoesie · 10/08/2017 20:12

Recess is normally the month of August - I 'think'. They've .......taken steps this year to ensure that there can be no presidential recess appointments. (As you said upthread, Lweji.)

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/08/2017 20:19

The Associated Press
The Associated Press @AP
BREAKING: Trump on his `fire and fury' warning to North Korea: Maybe statement wasn't tough enough.

cozietoesie · 10/08/2017 20:21

I saw that. Sad

cozietoesie · 10/08/2017 20:26

The Fear & Greed Index (Yes - there is such a thing) is now at 32.

lionheart · 10/08/2017 20:43

As usual he is too pig-headed to admit his own ignorance and wrecklessness. Just keeps digging.

badbadhusky · 10/08/2017 20:47

I had to google the Fear & Greed Index to see if 32 was a good thing or a bad thing. And the answer is..... bad. Pic attached.

We're not on a 17 day vacation, not us. We have meetings and calls! Now where did that golf ball go?...Trump cont.
cozietoesie · 10/08/2017 20:53

The markets are edgy as Heck. Tomorrow's trading will be crucial. (I mention this because 45 cares very much about it. ) And Across can have another Gin. Grin

cozietoesie · 10/08/2017 20:55

(Having moved her portfolio into low-risk a few months back. Wink)

badbadhusky · 10/08/2017 21:01

It's interesting looking at the market shifts in the image I just posted (bit on the right) - at last close out, last week, last month, last year. It's all over the place. I would be interested to know whether is a new thing or par for the course.

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