not to feel even slightly guilty

[bakedpotato]

about ripping a hole in a stranger's nasty jacket -- if anything, getting a bit of a kick out of it?

I got on a very full bus with 2 DCs this pm. Most people moved aside, with varying degrees of grace, to let me get the buggy down the aisle. Not one lady. She left her bag in the way so I thought, sod you, madam, and rammed the buggy into it, and past it like a Sherman tank and as we went by, I heard this satisfying rriiiiiippppp and realised somehow her apparel had snagged the buggy. She kept looking from me to the tear, daggers, but I was too busy discussing spring blossom with DD to notice.

I am not wrong, am I?

but there are many nice helpful people out there whoflip when provoked.......not that im one i must hasten to add!

I'm amazed at this....bakedpotato... you say you are not proud of this and didn't mean to rip her coat, but you are amused by it....?

I would be mortified. You don't know her circumstances... maybe she has bad eyesight. Perhaps she didn't acknowledge your knowing daggers stare because her mind was on other things... an ill daughter/husband or something. She isn't psychic or a mind reader. A polite 'excuse me, I need to get by' usually works for me. Then to be amused by ripping her coat... words fail me. How do you know she hadn't saved a long time for that coat.

And as for the poster who found it hilarious that her dd had got pink felt tip pen on a mans cream chinos, as he walked down a plane aisle... that is awful. Don't ppl have respect for other anymore? What about the saying 'do unto others as you would have done to yourself?'

bakedpotato, it's called divine retribution or 'she had it coming'

HMC, you know sometimes it's just not as easy as it sounds? Bus too packed, too noisy, children talking to me, I was too far away...

However, my eyebrows spoke to her with an eloquence beyond mere words (you know how eyebrows can do that). If she had moved the bag and the coat had then snagged, I'd have said sorry like a shot. Hell, I might have offered to stitch it up myself.

She looked daggers at me, helliebean, if you look at the op. I think her eyesight was OK.

Sorry baked potato... not sure where in the op you are assured she has perfect eyesight...! She might have heard the rip andnot seen clearly your 'why don't you move your bag' look...

So IMHO in answer to your op 'I am not wrong, am I?' .... I think yes you are.

lol bakedpotato at your expressive eyebrows

Perhaps I need lessons in 'eyebrow language' !

another point, you say, that the bus was full, crowded and noisy, and that people were pushing through, etc...maybe she genuinely didn't see your Buggy admidst it, and as everyone else was able to squeeze past, she didn't realise her bag and stuff was in the way....

MN should have expressive eyebrow emoticons.

Would save a load of reporting hoo-hahs.

3EasterBunnies you are sounding like a barrister. You need to end your next post 'I rest my case, m'lud'.

rofl...me sounding like a Barrister...now that is funny..hehe!

BP - I think you yourself think it is unreasonable not to feel guilty. It took you well over 100 posts to finally acknowledge the FIRST post that was put to you - namely did you ask her?

So, it turns out that you said nothing. How on earth you can even begin to try explain / justify your actions away when you relied on body language alone to communicate with a total stranger in is beyond me.

I think you should get your sackcloth and ashes out forthwith.

LOL at this mad thread.

Kasthy, I usually have so many huge bags they are in the aisle. Anyone breaking a coat has to pay for it. Taking pleasure in causing damage to others is a very strange mindset and not something we would want our children to emulate.

mmmm - what was going on BakedPotato i do understand your exasperation but your reaction and subsequent pleasure in ripping the coat was so so disproportionate and frankly bitty nasty

thing is you have kinda lowered yourself to a over reactive and nasty reaction- mmmm

probably also planted a seed in the commuters mind that all mums behave the way u do, and thus adding to prejudice/helpfulness's experienced by other buggy users on buses - i am one i do it daily to work

I think BP should walk barefoot to Rome with crowds lining up to watch her, clearly. Pushing a buggy, obviously.

LOL - yes taking care not to riiiiipp any centurion clothing as she pushes a sherman pram

Frustrated as you may have been I think you lowered yourself to her level. The jacket (nasty as it was)was ripped accidentally but you could have apologised. So yes I do think you are being unreasonable.