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Is this just real life? Is this just fantasy? ScaraMooch, keep your hands away from me. Trump continued

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orlantina · 30/07/2017 17:18

Because the last thread filled up REALLY quickly.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2986638-Seans-gone-Its-sad-Great-guy-Going-to-miss-him-Trump-continued?

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/08/2017 03:31

Evan Rosenfeld @Evan_Rosenfeld
BREAKING: @WSJ reports: U.S. attorney subpoenas Jared Kushner’s family business over investment-for-visa program

www.wsj.com/amp/articles/u-s-attorney-subpoenas-kushner-cos-over-investment-for-visa-program-1501717119

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/08/2017 03:34

The Hill
The Hill @thehill
Ex-GOP lawmaker who spent 7 months in prison for tax evasion considers return to Congress: report hill.cm/2gTFpbr

user1497863568 · 03/08/2017 03:59

PainintheEar: Lucky for Miller, and of some of his I comrades in crime they didn't prevent Yiddish, Italian and Gaelic speaking immigrants from entering America did they? Or Germans? Or Dutch 😉 The whole 'English only' is just so stupid. They're just trying every trick in the book. OBL was in total cahoots with the CIA and they're just trying to deflect blame to cover up that they keep trying to slaughter us all ...

orlantina · 03/08/2017 04:52

Given his regular lies - including his most recent one on the Scouts, why should people believe he didn't say the White House is a dump?

That's a question I would love to ask him.

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orlantina · 03/08/2017 04:54

The faux outrage by Miller against CNN and calling Jim Acosta racist reminded me of UKIP.

In fact, a LOT of this reminds me of UKIP. The discussion on immigration was exactly the same as we've had over Brexit.

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orlantina · 03/08/2017 05:03

On lying

www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/us/politics/those-calls-to-trump-white-house-admits-they-didnt-happen.html

“I wouldn’t say it was a lie — that’s a pretty bold accusation,” Ms. Sanders said. “The conversations took place, they just simply didn’t take place over a phone call, they happened in person.”

The calls appeared to be the latest evidence that the president, who prefers impromptu storytelling to a fact-checked script, is willing to shade or even manufacture events to suit his preferred narrative — even when the story is easily disprovable and of little consequence.

Mr. Trump has written about how he bends the truth when it suits his purposes, asserting in his 1987 book “The Art of the Deal” that “a little hyperbole never hurts.”

People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular,” Mr. Trump wrote then. “I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration — and a very effective form of promotion.”

The major difference now, Mr. D’Antonio said, is that as president Mr. Trump is fact-checked assiduously.

It's not innocent when it affects other people. It has consequences.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/08/2017 07:04

user miller's own grandparents were immigrants who wouldn't have passed the latest requirements and would've been banned.

And trump himself wouldn't pass current citizens test as he'd need to know American history, fill out forms accurately and have a good grasp of English somewhat tongue in cheek but I'd be astounded if he could pass a civics test

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/08/2017 07:09

Signing of Russian sanctions bill does not get the pomp and ceremony that even signing a memo generated.

Compare this:

www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-launches-infrastructure-initiative-fake-signing-ceremony

With this:

shareblue.com/trump-bans-media-from-covering-signing-of-russia-sanctions-he-hates/

TheNorthWestPawsage · 03/08/2017 07:14

Hmm, but he's been covering and sucking up too much to not be implicated IMO. (Plus he's also a woman-hating toe rag!)

Memo to Pence: Prepare to Be Gerald Ford

foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/02/a-memo-to-pence-how-to-prepare-to-be-gerald-ford-nixon-trump-white-house/amp/

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/08/2017 07:20

Max Boot
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Trump is considering pulling US troops out of Afghanistan. Russians now supporting Taliban. A coincidence? I report. You decide.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/08/2017 07:21

[from yesterday]

NBC Nightly News
NBC Nightly News @NBCNightlyNews
JUST IN: Russian PM Medvedev: Pres. Trump's admin. "has demonstrated full impotence" in signing new Russia sanctions.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/08/2017 07:25

Dmitry Medvedev @MedvedevRussiaE
The Trump administration has shown its total weakness by handing over executive power to Congress in the most humiliating way

BossyBitch · 03/08/2017 07:32

Ouch! That's not going to go down well with the kind of man who was provoked into mentioning the size of his penis during a debate just by someone having a dig.

And I bet the Russians are aware. Wonder what they hope he'll be provoked into now!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/08/2017 07:55

Submission, I think.

Piecing together how the Seth rich story was put together:

www.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/reporter-says-state-run-russian-propaganda-outlet-pushed-cover-seth-rich-conspiracy-theory-center-new-white-house-lawsuit-000407907.html

PerkingFaintly · 03/08/2017 09:57

US sanctions are 'trade war' on Russia, says PM Medvedev
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40809715

I think this is the line that tells us where Russia goes next:

'Mr Medvedev also warned that new steps would follow aimed at removing President Trump - whom he described as a "non-systemic player" - from power.'

Any woman and her dog can predict that 45 is unlikely to make the distance. Russia will push a narrative that this is because the evil powers of the deep state are conspiring against the hero of the white male supremacist little man.

Anything that causes chaos and paralysis in the US works for them.

TheClaws · 03/08/2017 10:02

Thanks Pain Gosh.

orlantina · 03/08/2017 10:38

Meanwhile in China

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Chinese state media says President Trump should stop conducting his international diplomacy on Twitter

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BossyBitch · 03/08/2017 10:52

Mr Medvedev also warned that new steps would follow aimed at removing President Trump

Textbook case of 'passive voice, consider revising' is ever there was one. The sentence as translated in BBC article could mean either Russia intends to take such steps or Congress does. I'm guessing it's the latter, but who knows these days.

BossyBitch · 03/08/2017 11:23

From an entertainment value standpoint, the Mooch's departure is an utter tragedy! The Trump Golf Lottery and Trump TV Show sound fabulous. In a disturbing sort of way.

MsHooliesCardigan · 03/08/2017 11:41

He really is thin skinned isn't he? Our politicians didn't throw their toys out of the pram over Spitting Images which was absolutely savage
www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/40810933/british-punk-singer-is-deported-from-america-for-impersonating-donald-trump

PerkingFaintly · 03/08/2017 12:13

After Trump, "big data" firm Cambridge Analytica is now working in Kenya
www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-40792078