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To ask for stories of people you knew who turned out to be criminals?

261 replies

QuackPorridgeBacon · 28/07/2017 21:03

Ok so I knew this guy at school and also at a club type thing (think scouts but different). He always annoyed me, I hated having to take orders from him as he was 'higher up' I would argue and get told off.. anyway, I moved away and a few years later it's in the news that he has committed crimes against under aged girls, between the ages of 14 and 16. I was shocked but I always thought he was creepy.

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MrsJayy · 29/07/2017 09:52

Oh Valderal I think i remember that being on the news Sad

lessworriedaboutthecat · 29/07/2017 09:56

I know the usual sort of nutters and criminals from school or from where I live, a few of them went onto commit some pretty serious nasty crimes, everything from drug dealing to rape and murder. The thing is that didn't really surprise or shock me, they were the sort of guys you would expect to do that sort thing.
The one that did shock me was a guy I worked with more than 20 years ago. He seemed a really nice friendly young man. Then I saw in the papers a few years ago that he murdered his children to get back at his wife after they split up. In the article it talked about what had happened in his life since I knew which was basically rather tragic, a lot of deaths in the family and things like that. It just seemed like he slowly turned from a nice guy into a monster. Or maybe he always was a monster who knows.

MrsJayy · 29/07/2017 09:58

A member of my stepdads family is never out of prison he is a violent man most of his victims have been women he was in relationships with last partner is physically scared, thing is he was year above me at school and he was a "nice lad"

MrsJayy · 29/07/2017 09:59

Scarred* sorry

RainyDayBear · 29/07/2017 10:09

One of my childhood friends younger brothers went to prison for drink driving and killing someone. I was really shocked when I read it in the paper, I remember him when he was about nine bringing us cups of tea in bed when I slept over! Obviously he deserved the jail time, but I felt really sad that he'd made such bad choices and that had happened as a result.

Wayfarersonbaby · 29/07/2017 10:09

A really senior colleague - extremely well-respected and with a very high-profile public-facing job - just got sent down for not just possessing child pornography, but also distributing, running chat rings and co-ordinating paedophile chat networks across the dark web. When it came out it turned out he had also been having affairs with several younger colleagues as well Shock This from a man whose public persona was very asexual and respectable. His wife is, inexplicably, standing by him and intends to take him back when he is let out of prison, despite the whole case having comprehensively ruined her children's lives. I have no idea why anyone would want to stand by someone like that! Sad

GreyWalls · 29/07/2017 10:19

@putdownyourphone Jayda Fransen?

augustusglupe · 29/07/2017 10:21

Found out a few months ago that my Dad went to prison in the 60s.
He was involved with the criminal element in a big northern city and had robbed a train/banks and so on.
I'm the youngest by many years so this was all hidden from me.
My elder sister blurted it out as if I already knew Hmm I started crying I was just so taken aback..In my 50 odd years, I never had a clue.
The general family feeling is that he was a 'bit of a lad' and they think it's cool Confused
I just thought, my poor mum and loved my dad so much but just feel a bit sad about it

Notreallyarsed · 29/07/2017 10:24

Valderal I remember that being on the news, that poor boy, it was awful.

A boy I went to school with killed his girlfriend's toddler son and nearly killed his own DD by shaking her. The awful thing is, not one of us we're surprised, we'd all tried to tell the teachers that he was vicious and nobody listened. He used to attack animals (cats, dogs, frogs, voles) and torture them to death.

QuackPorridgeBacon · 29/07/2017 10:25

These are awful. It really goes to show that you just can't always tell what kind of person someone will turn out to be. No matter how creepy or weird sometimes you just can't imagine they could do something so horrendous.

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Notreallyarsed · 29/07/2017 10:25

And my best friend's dad was a "face" back in the 70s/80s, he's a lovely auld guy, but you get the impression there's a hard bastard underneath all the charm and niceness.

metalmum15 · 29/07/2017 10:27

Ex 'friend' / friends boyfriend attempted to bludgeon someone to death. Currently serving life in prison 😐

Ceebeegee · 29/07/2017 10:36

I was friends with a girl all at secondary school, she had an older brother who seemed completely normal, nothing 'off" about him at all. Turns out he had sexually assaulted his sister for years. The poor girl was emotionally abused too , and she had been made to believe it was completely normal behaviour. It was horrific :(

My aunt lived on the same street as a man who killed his grandson. Id only ever seen him once when he was gardening and i wa visiting my aunt, but he was very involved in the local community . Was only a couple of years ago and I'm not sure they ever figured out why he did it.

Our PE teacher had sexual relations with a sixth former. It got swept under the carpet and he was put on gardening leave but I'm not sure whether any criminal action was taken .

There are so many stories of abuse from people in trust positions on this thread. I'm genuinely shocked . And worried !

TeslasDeathRay · 29/07/2017 10:38

My best friend's aunt and her partner tortured and murdered a lady, then dumped the body. Happened around the corner from my house. The place has been renovated, but it's still really creepy walking past it and knowing what happened.

Boy I went to school with. He was one of those lads you knew were not very nice and were always in a big gang. He and one of the gang were jailed for battering another boy to death. Happened across from my house.

My area has had quite a few murders, apparently Confused

areyoubeingserviced · 29/07/2017 10:39

Priest who worked in the church linked to my primary school.
My mother hated him on instant , but couldn't explain why.
A few years later he was transferred to another parish . We later found out that he had been jailed for sexually assaulting young boys.
My mother said that she wasn't surprised and that something about him made her really uncomfortable . These were the days when priests were given almost 'God'' status

MargaretTwatyer · 29/07/2017 10:47

Local mother I occasionally chatted to and had a child about the same age as mine was jailed with Ian Watkins.

She was a bit odd as in stroppy and confrontational but seemed like a loving Mum and it was a shock.

HickDead · 29/07/2017 10:59

A boy I went to school with murdered his girlfriend when he was 17 as she was pregnant and he didn't want his other girlfriend to find out as she was also pregnant. He's due for release soon I believe.

My aunts husband was jailed for fraud. All very shocking as he had told nobody about the court case and my aunt only found out he had been sent down when her FIL turned up at her work to tell her!

Also peadophile music teacher and a scout leader too.

MrsJayy · 29/07/2017 11:01

Teacher that taught both dds had a "fling "with a 5th year boy he was 16 she was arrested and obviously sacked was in the papers and she is now on the sex offenders register.

Timefortea99 · 29/07/2017 11:04

These professions with access to children seem to attract those who have more than education on their mind. Massive generalisation but they, and those who run out of school activities, seem to start these jobs/clubs for access to children.

A very senior colleague where I used to work (in local government, no access to children) is in prison for the distribution of child pornography. Got a couple of years.

QuackPorridgeBacon · 29/07/2017 11:10

MrsJayy how was she arrested if the boy was 16?

Sorry if I'm missing something obvious.

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Valderal · 29/07/2017 11:11

This thread has made me a little sad.
So conveniently we forget the horrors who have walked among us and the poor victims and families.

And I also second the pp who said something along the lines of 'and these are only the stories of those of have been caught'

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Leilaniii · 29/07/2017 11:14

One of my friends was killed by the serial killer, Dennis Neilson.

We also had a family friend who was a bank robber and was shot by the police on a raid.

Notreallyarsed · 29/07/2017 11:14

QuackPorridgeBacon the age of consent doesn't apply in cases where the older person is in a position of trust/power with the younger person. So teachers, doctors, social workers, police etc, it wouldn't apply if they were directly involved with that person.

Valderal · 29/07/2017 11:14

Quack

I assumed some sort of grooming took place when the student was underage?
Abuse of power?
Perhaps the student was vulnerable

Loads of reasons I suspect

MrsJayy · 29/07/2017 11:15

She was his teacher she breached Duty of care and was seen as grooming quack doesn't matter he was over the age of conset

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