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Sean's gone. It's sad. Great guy. Going to miss him.Trump continued

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orlantina · 22/07/2017 22:26

New thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2977693-The-thread-where-we-meet-to-discuss-the-unfolding-Trump-administration-catastrophe-but-end-up-discussing-adoptions-from-Russia?msgid=70627530

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cozietoesie · 24/07/2017 21:33

Well 45, or his communications team, obviously decided it was necessary for various reasons. It was little more than will have been said in all his conversations with the various senators. (There were the added children of course.)

We'll have to see what tomorrow brings.

saffronwblue · 24/07/2017 22:00

How is Jared going with bringing about Middle East peace?

SetPhasersTaeMalkie · 24/07/2017 22:35

Newsnight is covering Kushner/Russia and health reform. Looks interesting.

lionheart · 24/07/2017 22:49

I have added Kushner to the long list of people I cannot watch. Smile

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 24/07/2017 22:52

Burgess Everett @burgessev
Cornyn says they are trying to get doctor approval for McCain to come back tomorrow for healthcare vote (!)

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 24/07/2017 22:59

thehill.com/homenews/administration/343426-trump-floats-possibility-of-giuliani-replacing-sessions-as-attorney?amp

Caroline O.
Caroline O. @RVAwonk
There's a non-trivial chance that Trump may try to replace Sessions w/ Giuliani via recess appointment.

A few quick words on that... /1/

Trump seems to want to force Sessions to resign. Today he called Sessions "beleaguered" & then he did this...👇
/2/ time.com/4871278/president-trump-jeff-sessions-resign/

Trump appointed Sessions to run interference; to stymie the Russia probe. He wanted an AG who would obstruct justice for him. /3/
Though Sessions hasn't truly recused himself, he is under scrutiny & can't do anything too obvious to obstruct the Russia probe. /4/
Trump knows this & he's not pleased. He wants to stop the Russia probe & he needs an AG to do it for him. /5/
The Senate goes on recess on Aug 11 (thru Labor Day), giving Trump a window to get rid of Sessions & use a recess appt to replace him. /6/
A recess appointment does not require a Senate vote. It wouldn't expire until the end of the next Senate session (so the end of 2018). /7/
Per Senate rules, recess appointments generally are not permitted if the recess period is less than 10 days. This matters a lot. /8/
Sen. McConnell stopped Obama from making recess appointments by holding pro-forma sessions (where nothing was done) once a week or so. /9/
These sessions were literally just minutes long. No agenda. But they reset the recess clock, so the recess period never hit 10 days. /10/
So this will likely come down to McConnell. Thus far, he's shown no willingness to use the Senate as a check on Trump's power. /11/
However... Sessions is a former senator. He's part of an exclusive club, & McConnell is the leader of that club. Interesting dynamic. /12/
I don't know if Trump will try to force Sessions out, nor what McConnell would do. But don't let your guard down during Senate recess. /13/
McConnell threw Senate rules asides for a lifetime SCOTUS appt. Don't be surprised if he'd do it for a temporary AG appt. Just be prepared.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 24/07/2017 23:03

George Takei @GeorgeTakei
Apparently, even before Obama, there was OBAMACARE, wreaking havoc on the American health system.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 24/07/2017 23:07

Fucks sake, how on earth can anyone think this is a good idea?

shareblue.com/this-makes-my-stomach-turn-steve-scalises-chief-of-staff-slams-gop-ad-using-shooting/

AcrossthePond55 · 25/07/2017 00:35

Today has been 'one of those days' for me and I've not been able to keep on top of Wash DC goings on.

Just a big thanks to all the contributors for today's updates.

cozietoesie · 25/07/2017 01:03

You OK, Across?

Have some Gin. Things will at least look better. Smile

TheClaws · 25/07/2017 01:08

Trump doesn't hold back at Boy Scout National Jamboree speech. Forgets he's speaking to children, it seems.

thehill.com/homenews/administration/343552-trump-cuts-loose-in-front-of-massive-crowd-at-boy-scouts-jamboree

cozietoesie · 25/07/2017 01:11

He only has one speech.

cozietoesie · 25/07/2017 01:16

Anyway. My bellwether on these matters, someone of my acquaintance, opined - musingly - some months back 'I always assumed he didn't like children'.

I give that to you for what it's worth.

AcrossthePond55 · 25/07/2017 01:58

Thanks, cozie. Things have been better. But to quote Maya Angelou:

"Leaving behind nights of terror and fear
I rise
Into a daybreak that’s wondrously clear
I rise"

plus Gin

TheClaws · 25/07/2017 02:00

It would seem so, Cozie, although it seems to be getting increasingly scattered and filled with greater bluster.

TheClaws · 25/07/2017 03:28

Somehow, I find this to be one of his most shameful and disturbing tweets. There is such a flavour of propaganda and jingoism about it - especially inappropriate when speaking to young people. Apparently he spoke badly of Obama and encouraged them to boo Sad 'Take care of the people God puts into your life' does not ring true at all.

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago
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#2017Jambo- Remember your duty. Honor your history. Take care of the people God puts into your life – and LOVE & CHERISH your country!

19th National Scout Jamboree
There are many honors that come w/the job of being POTUS' - but looking out at this incredible gathering of young patriots, I am especially proud to speak to you as the Honorary President of the BSA!

TheClaws · 25/07/2017 03:33

Not sure what he's talking about here. Did he or didn't he end payments to rebels? I thought he was indirectly supporting the Assad regime via Russia?

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2m2 minutes ago
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So many stories about me in the @washingtonpost are Fake News. They are as bad as ratings challenged @CNN. Lobbyist for Amazon and taxes?

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 7m7 minutes ago
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The Amazon Washington Post fabricated the facts on my ending massive, dangerous, and wasteful payments to Syrian rebels fighting Assad...

TheClaws · 25/07/2017 03:39

Ah, I see it: as per this para -

'Last month, Trump ordered the shutdown of a years-long CIA program to train and arm the anti-Assad rebels.

Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John McCain (R-Ariz.) criticized the halt as “playing right into the hands of [Russian President] Vladi­mir Putin.”

“Making any concession to Russia, absent a broader strategy for Syria, is irresponsible and shortsighted,” McCain said in a statement from his home state, where he is being treated for brain cancer.'

www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cooperation-with-russia-becomes-central-to-trump-strategy-in-syria/2017/07/24/ba6172be-6e38-11e7-9c15-177740635e83_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_ussyria-9pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.718680a52447

TheClaws · 25/07/2017 03:40

I think he's losing his mind.

orlantina · 25/07/2017 05:03

If one of his 'apprentices' had done such a speech to an audience, how would he have reacted?

They're boy scouts. FFS

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InigoTaran · 25/07/2017 06:20

Here's his speech to the boy scouts. Awful.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lch4Bql6Baw

orlantina · 25/07/2017 06:30

He says' "Who the hell wants to speak about politics when I'm in front of the boy scouts"

After mentioning fake news and crowd size FFS

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Roussette · 25/07/2017 06:31

Putting boy scouts and Trump together is a horrible thought. And to use it for political gains or rhetoric, even worse. He is so distasteful.

Watching bits of this, I'm revolted. "Did President Obama come to a Jamboree?" No, you fat arse, but there was a lot more he did that you wouldn't even begin to be capable of and he actually invited Scouts to the WH. He is honestly sounding ill... it's rambling, incoherent rubbish.

A lot of people aren't happy... here is just one...

Sean's gone. It's sad. Great guy. Going to miss him.Trump continued