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Should I report to social services

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princessachica · 21/07/2017 16:01

It's been TWO WHOLE WEEKS ! and this has been slowly bugging my mind and munching at me that I've walked away from this situation and been making me feel very down I've asked my mum and my boyfriend what to do and they said it's totally up to me it's my friend.
Here is what happened.

Two weeks ago I went to visit my friend with my 9 month old from school she was a two years older than me she has a 1year old son she lives in her grandmothers attic .
I know she is known to social services cause when I was round there she had her boyfriend her sons father round cause he was having his vaccines the next day and she wanted support from him my friends mother called and I overheard her say "why is he there ? Don't let him go to the appointment don't let him be seen cause of the social services" and she then replied "yeah I know he is just gonna help out after they are done "

Okay cut a long story short ...
When I walked Into this attic it ABSOLUTELY STANK of marijuana and the son was playing in the pool pit the dad was sitting on the PS3 and some girl was sitting straightening her hair on the vanity table ... I sat holding my daughter I didn't like the atmosphere at all . My friend then began rolling a joint on the vanity table next to her friend and she asked me "do u still smoke" I said no I gave all of that up when we left school" and she replied with "rah how did u do that " I didn't reply cause I just really wanted to leave at this point ...
she then went out on the balcony with her boyfriend and smoked the joint ... I walked over to the little boy and said hello he smiled and I put my daughter in the ball pit and took two photos of them and I noticed the girl was giving me a funny look for taking the photos ... I got talking to her and she then told me she was "seventeen and has run away from her foster home for three days and has been staying here" I couldn't believe what I was hearing and what my friend was doing encouraging this young girl.

They then come in and the boyfriend was on the phone and said go and open up the door and my friend went downstairs opened the door and some guy we all knew came in he went and sat out on the balcony and I heard my friend shouting at her son for the son following her crawling down stairs and her boyfriend said "stop f-ing shouting at him before I come and punch you in your face" I looked down and the seventeen year old girl was on the balcony aswell I looked over and she was uncomfortable by the guy who walked in he was breathing down her neck and she was nearly hanging of the balcony trying to get him off her she came in and said "yeah I'm going to leave now" and my friend came in saying "awhh why now you don't have to " !!!!! And she just said "yeah I'm going when ever he comes he makes me feel uncomfortable " and my friend said "don't worry about it there going out to sell their weed in a minute" and the friend replied "well call me when they are gone and I'll come back"

Any way before they left they all went outside smoked another joint left me with their son ...

When they all left and it was just me and my friend she was clearly steaming out of breath and really high and very angry her boyfriend left ... I said I need to get going soon can I change my daughters nappy she then decided to change her son aswell and we both fed our children their bottle and spoke and my daughter fell asleep but her son never fell asleep and she wanted him to fall asleep and she was hugging him extremely tight he was crying uncomfortable and she was breathing really hard and she then threw him on the bed threw the bottle on the baby's face and told him "fine put yourself to sleep then" he was really crying at this point I looked down at my daughter and stroaked her face and gave her a kiss and she then picked up her son held him by his arms looked at him and then hugged and kissed him and shouted "stop crying " he stopped crying and he was shaking scared on her breathing so scared and he fell asleep from the stress and exhaustion and I said "I need to go now and get my dinner on " and she "oh okay so soon we had a good time come over again sometime" ...

I haven't messaged her since but it's been playing on my mind the poor little boy !! I didn't feel it was my place to say anything I was just stuck there watching ... I felt bad I went there and took my daughter there and I can't believe what I saw ...

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ThePlatypusPosse · 21/07/2017 17:07

Honestly, you can't be that worried about your safety as you've posted with very identifying details on a public internet forum.

"I really don't like getting Into sticky situation"

Please realise this 'sticky situation' is in fact child abuse and you are a bystander if you do not report it.

toastandbutterandjam · 21/07/2017 17:08

I reported a friend to SS, for different reasons to yours, but she was abusing a sibling - Sibling was a child, friend an adult. Her parents did nothing about it,.
A child was at risk of serious harm and I couldn't just sit and let that happen. Sometimes, the adults who are supposed to love and care for children don't or can't for whatever reason, so it's down to others to step in.
In my case, the child was being ignored. It was put down to 'sibling rivalry' and others told the child 'Oh, your sister is lovely, i'm sure she doesn't do that'.

I hope you're ok. It's not nice to see a child hurt and in your case, I would report.

demirose87 · 21/07/2017 17:10

You need to tell the whole story, even about the teenage girl. That is not an environment for any child. And keep yourself and your own child away from there. The welfare of the child is more important than them finding out that it was you that reported them.

princessachica · 21/07/2017 17:11

I reported it to the social services and I'm calling the police to mention I seen the missing girl and give them her whereabouts

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Benedikte2 · 21/07/2017 17:12

Do report the abuse to the baby OP. In most of the cases where young children have been killed/badly injured people close to the parents have been aware of the abuse and have said nothing. It appears SS have given this mother an opportunity to show she can safely parent her child but what you have witnessed shows this is not the case. He has no idea of child development of how her treatment of her son is affecting his brain and emotional development. He is probably already showing signs of attachment disorder -- never knowing if his mother will cuddle him or abuse him as the whim takes her. She in turn seems to lack the maturity to put her child's needs before her own.
BTW do mention you think father accompanied mother for the vaccinations as the nurse may well have a record of this that SS can check.
Generally Social workers know how to word things so it isn't obvious who has informed. Likely a number of people they will suspect before you.
Good luck

brasty · 21/07/2017 17:13

That is good OP. I would be worried about the 17 year old hanging around that type of environment.

Benedikte2 · 21/07/2017 17:13

Cross posted. Well done OP

brasty · 21/07/2017 17:14

And totally agree that as 2 couples, the ideal is not to be on the same floor.

UserThenLotsOfNumbers · 21/07/2017 17:15

Well done OP, I'm so glad you have stood up for these children.

January87 · 21/07/2017 17:16

@Tomorrowillbeachicken when you're young and unsure and scared it can be hard to make decisions like this. Please don't berate the OP for leaving it a while before reporting. She was scared herself.

Cuckingfunt1981 · 21/07/2017 17:19

Well done op . I hope to god this baby gets taken care of and is not in the arms of this abusive monsters care until she gets appropriate support and is deemed fit to take care of him

JoffreyBaratheon · 21/07/2017 17:28

Do it so you have a clear conscience, but don't expect them to lift a finger.

We have contacted the SS and the NSPCC about some truly horrendous things we've witnessed our neighbours doing. Nothing ever came of it and recently someone at the council told me that the stuff we saw "Is all in the past so doesn't matter now". Some of it is ongoing so I'm not sure how my local council define 'the past'.

The prevailing attitude is "Film it or it didn't happen." Apparently.

SparklyMagpie · 21/07/2017 17:33

I would mention the 17 year old and everything else.

Infact,i'd probably have asked if she wanted me to take her son so she could have a "rest "

I wouldn't have let my daughter stay there an i would have done what i could to get that baby boy out.

I hope the police do something, this is shocking and disgusting and im wondering why you are friends with this woman and questioned reporting this

Hope the police can do something

demirose87 · 21/07/2017 17:34

Well done OP you did the right thing. Social services will do what's in the best interest for this child and your friend will get some support. They are there to help.

princessachica · 21/07/2017 17:37

I am not friend with this girl we where friend at school and we got talking on social media and I went round to see she hasn't changed but there is a baby involved now

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princessachica · 21/07/2017 17:39

And how could I take the child ? You can't take people's children of them ?

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Andcake · 21/07/2017 17:43

Well don for contacting ss- you did the right thing

Fluffypinkpyjamas · 21/07/2017 17:44

Better late than never I suppose.

she was hugging him extremely tight he was crying uncomfortable and she was breathing really hard and she then threw him on the bed threw the bottle on the baby's face and told him "fine put yourself to sleep then" he was really crying at this point

Angry

Nasty fucking bitch. That poor poor little baby should be taken away and adopted by someone who will love and care for him. The many people that desperately want children and such feral people breed so easily.

princessachica · 21/07/2017 17:46

I think she was being nasty To him cause his dad went out I don't know

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Miserylovescompany2 · 21/07/2017 17:56

I hope the police use their powers (72hour protection) and get that poor baby boy out of that abusive household.

Why have you waited two weeks? You saw a baby being physically harmed?

I hope that child is still alive!

Fluffypinkpyjamas · 21/07/2017 17:59

I think she was being nasty To him cause his dad went out I don't know

What difference does it make why she was nasty to him? The point is she WAS, she was just vile to him. He shouldn't be with her.

princessachica · 21/07/2017 18:00

It was difficult for me knowing the father of the child is a drug dealer and is capable of many things ...

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princessachica · 21/07/2017 18:01

And I'm not trying to excuse her but I'm saying she would dare do that Infront of the boyfriend cause he would probably kill her

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Miserylovescompany2 · 21/07/2017 18:04

She did it in front of you. What does she do when no-one else is around? Babies are dependant on others to keep them from harm. They can't fight back, they can't get up and leave like you did.

princessachica · 21/07/2017 18:05

Yes I know ... so horrible she does it infront of other friend aswell ... I'm so glad I feel a weight lifted of my chest

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