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AIBU to find Local people rather like Edward and Tubbs (League of Gentlemen)

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ItsALocalPlaceForLocalPeople · 19/07/2017 09:20

When I was 8 my family moved up north. I started school and was immediately singled out by the majority of classmates for being 'posh' ie I had an accent that was from elsewhere in the country.

When I started work the question asked about anyone new starting 'are they local?'. And had many conversations starting with 'you know Joe's aunt's, cousin's, sisters, dogs girlfriend's budgie?' 'No, I'm not local remember'...'oh yes'...turns to cleaner 'you know....' 'oh yes!' .

Moved place again before dc was born. When dc started preschool, all the localism cropped up again, with my now ex husband joining in with who's local children we should compare our local child to (and attempting to get some sort of competition going to impress other parents). The parents were the queen bee's from the school he went to.

I have realised over time at school, there is a small group of Local friends (all went to same secondary school), who also are governors at school or work in reception or have siblings working at the school, New people from outside the area who are wannabes and are friendly with them, and spread gossip to them, then further out folk who are Local, and accept the norm's and standards of the Local friends behaviour and their children's behaviour, without a mummer, and are also accepted to chat to the Local friends group as they are.....Local.

I really have grown up with a chip on my shoulder about it all. I have never been local. I left my place of birth when I was a year old. So never had that feeling of belonging in a community. Never had multiple family members in my community.

I personally find, some, not all rather narrow minded...I'm guessing because they have never left the place they were born, or their parents, or their parents parents? Should add I clash with the majority view as I am vegetarian (farmers and hunters around here, or its seen as 'natural' by those who don't do either), and the Locals struggle with the fact I don't eat meat (no I don't make a song and a dance about it, I am very laid back, I only mention it if someone is going to prepare food). I spend time with my children (Local parents seem to put their children into many competitive clubs to compete against each other at an early age, also leave them with their mother's, frequently) and I have a different gentler parenting philosophy (not to the point of no discipline!). I think moving around, and being rejected by Local people for being different to their social norms, has made me grow up open minded and generally tolerant of other's being different to me, so long as they respect the fact that I have the right to be different to them.

To sum up, I just bloody resent the sheer narrow mindedness and constant rejection, for the crime of being a) not Local b) different. I do have friends who are Local, and are genuinely lovely, accepting, human beings. But I have just met so much Localism since I moved up here as a child, it bloody grates on my nerves!

Back to the title, when The League of Gentlemen came out I was bloody delighted to see Edward and Tubbs, as it demonstrated (with exaggeration!) what I had experienced, Locally.

Does anyone else experience Localism? How does it make you feel? How do you deal with it?

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ellenripleysbiceps · 19/07/2017 17:01

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IJustLostTheGame · 19/07/2017 17:05

I felt like that when I lived in Harrogate.
I stuck it out for a year and then moved.

MsRinky · 19/07/2017 17:45

By the way I married a Northerner, we now live down south and he gets loads of good-natured flak at work about flat caps and whippets. Our favourite (very friendly pub) in the heart of commuterland has a board outside featuring Edward and Tubbs saying "Local pub for Local people".

When we lived in Glasgow there was once a slightly edgy situation in a pub where he had to defuse things by explaining to a bunch of pissed Weegies that he wasn't English, he was Yorkshire, at which point they decided he was OK...

YouTheCat · 19/07/2017 17:52

Well, clearly you need to offer your 'points' to any local people, as you are a no tail. Then people will accept you as one of them. Grin

Don't forget to make something appetising from the 'special stuff' from the local butcher at the next PTA gathering.

user1457178042 · 19/07/2017 18:29

Supposedly all the characters in League of Gentlemen were based on real people.

"Even the guy who went around in blackface stealing peoples wives?"

I did say supposedly.

SueMacartney · 19/07/2017 18:35

Re Papa Lazarou, I think the voice/words of hello Dave originally came from a real person, not so sure about the other aspects Grin

TheHiphopopotamus · 19/07/2017 18:40

Royston Vasey...Sorry, that's what if feels like. Yorkshire

From someone who lives a mile from "Royston Vasey" (or, at least, the village where it was filmed)

OT, but was Royston Vasey supposed to actually be set in Yorkshire? (I know it was filmed in Hadfield, which is in Derbyshire). The League of Gentlemen went to Bretton Hall which is just down the road from Barnsley which even has a village called Royston. I wonder if it was just some non-specific 'Northern' place.

Although there are definitely some 'local people' in Barnsley, I can tell you.

TheHiphopopotamus · 19/07/2017 18:41

I've lived in Manchester and the anti-southern sentiment, (bordering on racism I suppose in a way) can be quite draining

Actual frigging lol 😂

BeyondDrinksAndKnowsThings · 19/07/2017 18:50

I'm actually in Wales (and can confirm there is a Swansea!) and I know what you mean. Everyone knows absolutely everything about everyone. I'm third generation Local (which is impressive for a relatively new build!! Grin ) but I did move away escape for a bit, so I think I'm less insular...

ellenripleysbiceps · 19/07/2017 18:53

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TroysMammy · 19/07/2017 18:55

I live in Swansea. It's not that big but it's heaven.

TheHiphopopotamus · 19/07/2017 18:59

ellen thanks! That's interesting. Just googled a pic of that guy and yes, he's very...local Confused

Freya84 · 19/07/2017 19:28

In my last job in a department store, a couple came in that strongly reminded me of Edward and Tubbs to the point where I could barely function. They were genuine, an elderly couple and the bloke was leading the woman round as she looked at things in a frightened manner. I was waiting for them to ask if I was local or if the price of something was twelfty.
That was in Yorkshire. Until recently, I'd lived there my whole life and that was the first and only instance something like that happened and I grew up on a farm. On the whole, I find Yorkshire folk friendly and helpful.
I now live in the south west and see a fair few people that fit a similar description to Edward and Tubbs. I also get funny looks because of my northern accent with the odd comment of "you're not local, are you?" But saying that, and feeling as though people aren't as friendly down here as in Yorkshire, I have made some good friends.
Maybe try find the positives of where you are? I moved from everything I knew, all of my family and friends and left behind a beautiful part of the country. However, I'm making a life for myself in the south west and am often struck by it's beauty.
Also, I think everywhere has an Edward and Tubbs

SueMacartney · 19/07/2017 19:47

freya did you point them in the direction of the snowglobes?

userlotsanumbers · 19/07/2017 19:55

No I have it that Royston Vasey was based on the village that I live in, and that is in Lancashire. Steve Pemberton is from round here.

I am Local. I can trace my ancestry back to the 1500's to within a 15 mile radius. I probably get on the OP's nerves quite a bit.

But I'm vegetarian, with a gentle parenting style and have a reputation for being laid back. Just goes to show, you never can tell Wink

Freya84 · 19/07/2017 20:08

sue Grin No, we didn't have any. I was very disappointed! I can't remember what they asked for either

YouTheCat · 19/07/2017 20:10

Was it 'cans of can't'?

ItsALocalPlaceForLocalPeople · 19/07/2017 21:11

Pfft to those saying I have a thing against all locals or all Yorkshire folk! Now that would be a broad brush stroke. I AM friends with people who are generations local, and are normal and welcoming and friendly, kind, lovely etc. However some are not. And it really is quite insular around here. That's why I found Edwards and Tubbs such a joy to watch :D in fact when I watched it, I went into work the next day and related the sketch to my good LOCAL friend who found it funny as she knew how often she used the word 'local' . I have also spoken to other people who were :-O born outside the area, they have also experienced it.

Anyway, really enjoying the stories, and clearly its not just an isolated phenomenon where I live!

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PaintingByNumbers · 19/07/2017 21:16

Surely you live in east yorkshire? Are there other places as bad?

MaidOfStars · 19/07/2017 21:18

It was certainly filmed in Hadfield but wouldn't say it was based on Hadfield - certainly gives the impression of somewhere darker and more inbred

ItsALocalPlaceForLocalPeople · 19/07/2017 21:19

North Yorkshire. I shall say no more! NettleTheElf pm'ed me where she thought I was talking about. Top two towns she listed for this insular attitude was where I moved to and where I live now :D but I'm not spilling where! Edward and Tubb clones may come and get me...

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ItsALocalPlaceForLocalPeople · 19/07/2017 21:21

I know a local place up the hill from us. Even the Locals ie Ex calls the people there inbred. Rumour has it, brother to sister :-O and apparent deformity's too...maybe I should visit and see if there is a local village shop there?

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BlueThesaurusRex · 19/07/2017 21:27

You are from my home town... I know it!! Grin

I left then returned and am still viewed with suspicion for my 'missing years'!

ItsALocalPlaceForLocalPeople · 19/07/2017 21:38

I'll PM you Blue ;) see if we have a match!

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SueMacartney · 19/07/2017 21:41

BlueThesaurusRex: The Missing Years. It's like the experimental album by the well known artist that no-one buys.