Charlie Gard 7

[CaveMum]

Continuation of the discussion.

It looks highly unlikely that there will be a verdict today as GOSH have not yet been able to put their case across. The Gard family had their position heard this morning and currently an expert witness from the US is being questioned via video link.

MSM = mainstream media

DailyMailReadersAreThick, ah thank you, they are obviously well aware that there are a lot of people disagreeing with them then.

Also there is a couple of more factors to why Connie may be fighting so hard besides she loves him so and may feel guilt about faulty gene...

1. She may know the possibility of conceiving another child with the condition is 1 in 4 so Charlie may be only hope of a child.
2. With all the stress and strain of the past eight months is she frightened that her relationship with Charlie's dad may breakdown and thus not only lose little Charlie but his dad too and the pain would be far too much for her?

Maybe all these reasons make her blind to reason? Maybe Charlie's dad feels the same? All this has to be took into consideration when judging their behaviour.

I said it before and will say it again.

I really don't think re posting CA comments is useful AT ALL.

Starve them of publicity. Please.

To those saying they're disappointed in the judge, just a gentle reminder that family judges in particular tend to err on the side of caution when it comes to these cases. They give a lot more latitude to families and parents to put their case across (however hopeless) so that they get a sense of justice and importantly, so they're watertight when it comes to the court of appeal. You can't appeal a judge for unfairness when he's been patient and overly forgiving.

Sostenueto, I agree with what you say, sometimes I feel really sorry for the parents, then sometimes angry and angry at what Charlie is suffering, I think its bloody tough for them and they are blinded, but they need to choose to do whats right for their son in the end, because all of this stringing it along, as in the end it is affecting them all badly, and stringing that out is making it worst, they need to make a decision and bloody stick to it.

Yes muckypup they do.

sodablackcurrant, why? there are a large audience on mumsnet, that may not read all the shit that comes from there, as for the publicity????

Good points by all

I've not commented on previous threads, but I think the judge is right in making absolutely sure that all evidence is able to be offered & that any existing evidence is again thoroughly examined so that there can be no doubt at all regarding the decision. The outcome of this case will no doubt set a precedent for future cases so from a legal & moral point of view it needs to be spot on.
From a personal point of view I do feel for his parents who undoubtedly love their son, but who have been completely backed into a corner by the "support" they've been given. The "army" that is currently on their side will turn on them like a pack of wolves if they show any indication of accepting the current court ruling.
I feel for the fantastic staff at GOSH who are doing their duty in the most harrowing circumstances & have been subject to the most horrific abuse,but continue with the utmost professionalism.
Above all I feel for Charlie. I hope that he is as comfortable as he can be & hope for his sake that there's some resolution to this sooner rather than later.

Brian damaged? That's what's there now, I have decided for my own MH that I'm staying away from CA.

I had my beautiful little grandaughter today, she's 9 months. She's a darling happy little soul, holds her own bottle, feeds well, she's rolling round the floor and desperately trying to crawl.....and it just made me so sad thinking of the existence (certainly not a life) that Charlie has .

Desperately sorry for C&C. They look broken. I only wish them the best.

And their son? Is he destined for a life confined to a room, full of tubes.
These poor people. A good outcome seems so unlikely whatever the result tomorrow.

So so pleased the judge today took time out to talk about the vile internet hate frenzy. Shameful as it is. Noticed its strangely subdued on CA. So pleased that their vile bullying will not be tolerated.

CA US is still makes for unbelievable reading. You couldn't make some of it up.

Mucky my dear it does no good because it makes us all so upset. But we all did good in the last few days reporting etc and with the judges words it will soon come to a stop, but by repeating their comments here you are getting upset understandably and so are we and it sort of puts us on their level and you, me and everyone on here are above all that aren't we?

Do all parents with children on life support with little hope of survival get access to the courts ad infinitum regarding the outcome/decision to switch it off or keep it going?

Maybe this case is different to all those other situations. I dunno.

I have such respect for those families in gosh Picu at the minute. But they are with their child. Aren't they?

I've have been looking at these threads but haven't had the chance to comment.
Dd is up to date on everything as she's used this case as a case study for various different ethical approaches in her alevel R.S
Just read comments if how GOSH have abused charlie and what happened to baby P because he was neglected. I cannot believe the trash that come out of their mouths. Baby P and GOSH are worlds apart
I feel for the poor mite and hope the judge says enough is enough. The parents look poorly more so Connie.
I suppose the most sad things is both parents carry the gene for Charlie's condition so If they have another child it's probably likely the child would be like Charlie

Zoflorabore, what do you mean?

Sostenueto, I guess you are right, just this is close to my heart as it is others x

@sodablackcurrant

Sorry, are you dictating to people what they can post on here?

I don't go on the CA page anymore, it infuriates and upsets me in equal measures. I'm so pleased that the ones that did go on & spent time reporting actually made an impact.

So question, tomorrow they are having a meeting..about when the next hearing will be set? And verdict possibly heard then?
I read somewhere the judge said that there will be no decision expected tomorrow.
I'm certainly not blaming the judge and wouldn't want to be in his shoes, just a bit confused as he seemed very adamant that this was not going to be drawn out and the entire case not reheard. I appreciate the sensitive nature of this case although I don't see c&c and gosh ever coming to an agreement.

It is to mine too muckypup and sometimes it is best to step back from it because its like repeatedly hitting your head against a brick wall and getting a lot of pain, confusion and unbelievable disbelief that humans can act and say such awful things. So come join me in finishing this bottle off. ( have been lurking all day but crying because I have got so emotionally involved in this case it has driven me to distraction).

anyon can go to court soda its their right to if they disageree but i think most think it through and decide letting go is for thee best

Someone put that Charlie isn't "Brian damaged" I can't cope with the idiots on there so have banned myself from going on, that's what I meant.

i agree dustbunny i cant see them agreeing

Soda in the nicest possible way, people clearly don't agree with your CA oxygen of publicity point. If you've said it several times and not secured the reaction you want, there's probably a reason for that.