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To not taking newborn baby into smoking household

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Lemonfrostedcake · 13/07/2017 10:33

My mum and her partner are very heavy smokers. They smoke in every room in their house - kitchen, living room, bedroom. My brother lives there but doesn't smoke (I feel sorry for him, but I can't do much about that).

They have always smoked in the house whilst I've been visiting, but since pregnancy they've tried to sit next to the open back door or we sit outside (though still not great as they can both be smoking at the same time either side of me). However as the evening goes on they'll start to have a cheeky fag inside the house.

Even if they aren't smoking in the house, to a non-smoker it's incredibly obvious. Everything just smells and I always come home feeling really grimey.

I was round yesterday - I'm 39 weeks now. It felt a little like the pretense had been given up. Granted, my mum wasn't sitting on the sofa next to me, but instead standing at the living room door way. It's not my house, so I don't say anything.

However I do not want to expose my baby to that atmosphere. I can't make them stop smoking in their house, so the only thing I can think is that we don't go round. No Christmas, no weekend visits, no stay overs for baby, etc. They can of course visit us (though they very rarely bother - possibly because they have to go outside away from the doors to smoke).

I don't think I'm being precious, and I know lots of children survived in smoking households (me, for one), but I still don't want it for my child.

Am I being unreasonable to think it makes little difference to the smoke in the house by smoking outside for the few hours I might visit for? And am I being overly precious?

OP posts:
NotAnotherUserName5 · 13/07/2017 11:31

Yanbu-baby's health is more important than upsetting them by far!

hannah1992 · 13/07/2017 11:33

My Nanna was a chain smoker - always in the house never outside. I'm a hairdresser and when I was pregnant with my second they had brought out the carbon monoxide readers at the midwife appointment. One morning I went and did her a perm all in all I was there about 2 and a half hours, she was smoking the whole time. I went to midwife appointment straight after I left. She did the test as routine and I blew a reading of 10! Luckily I know midwife and she knew I didn't smoke but she did say it's surprising how much you can breath in from second hand smoke even though you're not smoking yourself you might as well be so from then on I made her come to me for her hair as I don't allow anyone to smoke in my house if they smoke they have to go outside. It really shocked me. Neither of my kids ever went there after that she either came to me or I met her somewhere. It scares the life out of me. Midwife said that reading would have been equivalent to someone who had smoked in the last three hours

SaS2014 · 13/07/2017 11:37

You are not being precious or unreasonable!
I have refused to visit smokers hone since becoming pregnant and have made it clear there is no way I will be taking my dd (once she us here) to visit friends or relatives who smoke.
Yes their house their choice absolutely. But my choice to not want to expose my baby to that.
And yes you're right not smoking in a certain room for a couple hrs while you are there is of no value at all. The entire house is already filled with the smoke etc.
You must do what you feel is best for you and baby.
If they want to be involved in babies life they will make the effort to visit you or can arrange meet ups somewhere else.

CharleyEmily · 13/07/2017 11:37

Yanbu. I am very against smoking. My DDs dad (very little, supervised contact only) smokes, but if he wants to cuddle her then he changes his clothes. Simple as that!

MsAdorabelleDearheartVonLipwig · 13/07/2017 11:44

Just interested as to why the first poster araiwa thought that you were BU.

If they choose to put their disgusting habit before their grandchildren then that's their lookout. You can present them with all the facts and tell them that you won't be able to visit with the baby but if they choose to carry on then you know their priorities.

Creatureofthenight · 13/07/2017 11:47

YANBU or precious, you are just making your child's health a priority.

LoveCakesandWine · 13/07/2017 11:55

YANBU. It's your DPs choice to smoke, it's your responsibility to keep your children healthy and minimise harm

Interested to know for people saying they wouldn't take a baby to a smoker's house, what age would you take a child?

DH & I only know of 2 smokers but they both only smoke in their gardens, not inside their own homes.

toomuchtooold · 13/07/2017 11:57

I do have to be so careful with wording though. I once didn't go round for Mother's Day once (it hadn't been suggested that I would and I'd been told the were going to her DP's mum's instead), but she stopped returning my calls and texts for 3 months.

That's a pretty extreme reaction from your mother. It sounds like you have to walk on eggshells with her a lot. I suspect that you probably make a lot of efforts to keep her happy that you're not even really aware of - which will get harder to do once the baby arrives, so don't be too surprised if she starts falling out with you a lot then.

toomuchtooold · 13/07/2017 12:02

for people saying they wouldn't take a baby to a smoker's house, what age would you take a child

People who smoke actually in the house? Never for the kids, and I'd only visit myself if they were ill or needed my help or something. Aside from the health issues, it's horrible! I grew up in a smoking household and I always smelled of it - I remember gagging when I put my clothes back on after a shower, because they smelt so bad. I did volunteering for Age Concern a few years back and my lady who I visited was a chain smoker - I used to have to put all my clothes in the machine and have a shower afterwards because I was stinking. I don't know how non-smokers can bear it. If you smoke, or you live in a house with smokers, you stop being able to smell it eventually, I get that. But if you don't smoke? I mean, it's so strong.

lorelairoryemily · 13/07/2017 12:03

YANBU at all, I wouldn't let my 15month old son in to that house, no way, let them
poison themselves if they want to but you certainly don't have to expose your baby to it. They can visit you surely?

LoveCakesandWine · 13/07/2017 17:41

Toomuch that was my thoughts too. I wouldn't like to be in a smokey environment and really don't like the thought of a baby or child being in that position.

thecatsabsentcojones · 13/07/2017 17:48

You're not being unreasonable, there are huge risks from passive smoking. Tell her mum she'd never forgive herself if anything happened as a result of her smoking. Surely she'll understand? My FiL can be a right arse but even he understood that.

BrollyDolly · 13/07/2017 17:49

I wouldn't take my baby in a house like that. I smiled until I was pregnant but could not bear to smoke in the house or be in a house where people smoked. Also higher risk of SIDS. A leaflet I got today from HV said baby shouldn't even be held by someone if they have smoked in the last 30 mins.

RoboticSealpup · 13/07/2017 17:49

YANBU. Maybe you could get something like a leaflet or information sheet from your midwife to give to her? She probably thinks you're exaggerating the danger.

anchor9 · 13/07/2017 17:55

I would 100% not be taking my baby into a house like that. i wouldn't want them anywhere near tbh. but I take a v dim view of smoking ¯(ツ)/¯

orenisthenewblack · 13/07/2017 19:32

YANBU. We don't visit anybody who smokes. In fact, none of my friends or family smoke. My niece on DH side smokes, but never inside.

Smelly stinky stuff. Babies should smell of baby, not nicotine. Stick to your guns and tell her she won't be cuddling new baby with stinky clothes either.

Andrewofgg · 13/07/2017 20:03

YANBU of course.

  1. No visits to them.
  1. Welcome at yours but don't even bring the fags then there's no temptation and keep some clothes aside for visiting Lemon that are never smoked in.
  1. Or meet at neutral places like restaurants which are now smoke-free.

And stick to your guns!

Fluffypinkpyjamas · 13/07/2017 20:12

YANBU. Smoking is grim. If they care they will quit . I say that as an ex smoker.

BlahBlahBlahEtc · 13/07/2017 20:13

Third hand smoke is incredibly dangerous, especially to newborns.

CigarsofthePharoahs · 13/07/2017 20:50

Oh the "Well you were all right" line grinds my gears.
My Dad's parents were heavy smokers. He has many memories from childhood of going to the doctor to get treatment for ear infections. I remember helping my Mum and Dad redecorate my Nana's lounge and just feeling revolted by the thick build up of yellow oil on the ceiling.
YANBU to keep your child out of that environment.

OhOurBilly · 13/07/2017 21:29

YANBU.

LML83 · 14/07/2017 05:57

YANBU it is dangerous for baby.

'mum look at the guidelines on babies and smoking there is a link to cot death. This is hard for me because I was really hoping to visit lots during mat leave but u can see it's not possible to bring baby here. It is disappointing but your welcome at mine anytime or we can meet at coffee shop etc'

HunterHearstHelmsley · 14/07/2017 06:01

YANBU.

However, my sister has just given birth and is living with me. I smoke in the conservatory with the door open. She seems to expect me to not smoke within a mile radius of my house.

JungleInTheRumble · 14/07/2017 06:05

YANBU, smoking is a horrible habit and no baby or child should be subjected to that.

crazypenguinlady · 14/07/2017 06:07

YADNBU.

No one in our immediate families smoke which I am grateful for. I'm fairly laid back but it's the one thing Id be strict about. Can you tell them you won't be taking the baby there but they are welcome to yours? Surely if they love their grandchild enough then they'll make some kind of effort

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