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AIBU to want to continue to work part time once re-married

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TwattyvonTwatofTwatsville · 10/07/2017 09:55

Long back story, please be patient!

I am divorced, with two children, aged 14 and 11. Youngest starts high school in September.

I was a stay at home mum once my eldest was born, (worked full-time up until then) up until ex husband left me 4 years ago when I have been working part time since. I have worked in a few jobs in the last four years, have tried to work around the kids as much as possible, for around 16-21 hours a week.

I am currently working part time and also doing some online training with the view that I can get a better paid job after the summer.

I have been very lucky to have met and fallen in love with a wonderful man, also divorced. He is amazing in many ways, kind, good with my children, great fun and gorgeous. He asked me to marry him earlier this year and I was delighted. We plan for him to move into my house around November / December this year, and will get married at some point next year.

Now..the question of finances has come up and DP had assumed that when my youngest starts high school that I would then get a full time job to maximise my financial contributions to the 'pot'. I don't want to.

My ex is a high earner and I get a considerable amount of maintenance from him, in line with CSA guidelines. On top of this I had envisaged working part time, 3 days a week. My total contribution to the 'pot' would be a not insignificant £2000+ per month, net. On top of this I own the house that myself and new DP would be living in. There is a mortgage on the property, but not excessive.

DP came away from his divorce with nothing other than he kept his pension - all equity went to the ex wife. He has saved a sum of money and could in theory use that as a deposit and buy his own house (and so put off us living together for a number of years) but his mortgage would be huge - likely double what mine is. On top of that we would have two sets of bills etc between us. I have done the maths, produced spreadsheets and we would BOTH be considerably better off financially living together in my house with me working 3 days a week as I planned to. Plus we could afford to make overpayments on the mortgage with a view that we could pay it off much earlier.

I manage comfortably right now on what I get from my ex and my earnings. I can pay my mortgage, car, bills, kids clothes / clubs and still have money over for a modest holiday once or twice a year. I am not well off but want for nothing.

My children are getting older BUT they are still kids. They bicker a lot at times. My eldest has a serious medical condition which she manages brilliantly for the most part, but I have often had to leave work to do an emergency dash to her school to drop off supplies etc that she has forgotten. Or to pick her up if she is having a shit day with it. She is 14 and makes mistakes, like any kid.

Their Dad is great, but works in a demanding job and is often away travelling. I have no family to help with childcare, ex's family live abroad. My friends all work part time and are in the same boat. In short, I do all the day to day childcare / running around / taking to and from clubs/ looking after when they are poorly etc. If I worked full time I would have to leave both children alone for many days at a time in the school holidays (their high school is a state school but has longer days and therefore longer holidays - summer holidays are 8 weeks long!)

My new partner was badly burned by his ex-wife who spent lots and earned nothing, and then again by his divorce which saw him having to start all over again financially. From his perspective he doesn't want history to repeat itself - he earns a very good salary and would like me to maximise my earnings. But we could have a very nice, comfortable life with my working 3 days a week. I see this as a good compromise, with the view that of course I will increase my working hours as the kids get older and can be left for longer.

As an aside - it goes without saying that if I HAD to work full time to bolster the family coffers then I would - if something happened to him or his work. I just don't get that I should just for the sake of having more disposable income when we would already have a great standard of living (in my opinion). I'm not particularly materialistic. New partner is more so.

AIBU and lazy cow?

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Junebugjr · 10/07/2017 10:45

How long have you been together OP?

whatnow17 · 10/07/2017 10:47

I'm another one who says don't marry him. Protect your own interests all the way. Why not just live together without being married and agree the finances with cohabitation rather than marriage in mind? And yes, work the hours that you want.

Cailleach666 · 10/07/2017 10:47

You are not lazy.

I would echo what others say about being careful financially.

My youngest is 17 and I work only 15 hours a week- I have no intention of ever working full time.

Suits me just fine.

TheVeryThing · 10/07/2017 10:51

Why would you want to have this man move in at the expense of your quality of life? That's what you need to ask him.
My children are much younger, but I find that the older they get the more they need me around.
I have no choice but to work full time and I think you'd be mad to give up your current arrangement.
You are to be commended on arranging this as they are, for the benefit of everyone in the family.

whatnow17 · 10/07/2017 10:55

get a DOT on the house and make sure you are protected financially.
And tell him you've done it, and look at what his response is.

Shock Is it possible to get a DOT on a property without the other person knowing? I am hoping not, as H has always refused to put my name on the deeds to our house despite us being together for 21 years (married for 15 of those) and having 3 dc. Now we are on the brink of divorce and tempers (his) are going to be flying and god knows what is going to happen.

He will not be reasonable or kind, that is for sure.

[Apologies for derail]

user1495451339 · 10/07/2017 11:02

I don't really see his reasoning as if he lived with you both your outgoings would be cut and if you can afford it now you can definitely afford it with him living with you. It sounds like he doesn't respect that your children still need a mother around sometimes especially as you are the one that does everything at home and around them. I would be wary of moving in together at all. Maybe keep things as they are until your children are older.

Hissy · 10/07/2017 11:04

Will your child maintenance remain the same if you remarry?

There is something 'off' about his request to change your working arrangements if it works for you, why on earth would you fix it? it ain't broke!

TwattyvonTwatofTwatsville · 10/07/2017 11:05

We've been together almost 4 years.

I met him 8 weeks after my ex left me.

We haven't rushed anything, and we're not rushing now. Hence we are talking through all these issues NOW and not once he has moved in.

He's a good person. I do trust him, but I am also realistic and as a divorced woman I am well aware that not all marriages make it. My equity in the house would always be protected. He understands that. It isn't a problem in the slightest for him to sign a DOT before moving in. If, in the future we sold my house and bought another together, again, my chunk of the equity would ALWAYS be protected. He is not a freeloader and very fair.

To those who say why would you marry him / live with him.... my children adore him. They miss having a father figure in the house, they love him being there, in fact prefer it when he is to when it is just us (all their words). They cried with joy when we got engaged. He is very lovely and great fun and is good for me, and good for them. I love him being around too! He is a good 'foil' for me. He is very relaxed, I can be more uptight, I feel he helps me be a better parent.

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ALittleMop · 10/07/2017 11:07

why does he want you to "maximise your earnings"?

why is he not more bothered about what you want and need and what your children want and need?

do you just want different things?

StayAChild · 10/07/2017 11:08

When you say you would both be considerably financially better off, I think you mean he would. You might well be too if it all works out, but what about your work/life balance? You're ok as you are, so even with overpaying your mortgage with a view to being mortgage free, he still thinks you need to work full time? Why? Please don't let him convince you that's what you need to do.

TwattyvonTwatofTwatsville · 10/07/2017 11:08

Yes, child maintenance would remain the same if we marry / live together.

I would lose a bit of spousal maintenance but over all we would still be much better off with shared bills / one mortgage.

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whatnow17 · 10/07/2017 11:08

Why not live with him without being married though? Genuine question.

Squishedstrawberry4 · 10/07/2017 11:14

Don't marry him. Just live with him. He's clearly not ready. You are putting your kids needs first and your own mental health. You will be providing more then enough cash to the pot. Don't be cornered into full time work when it would badly skewer everyone's life balance.

50ShadesOfEarlGrey · 10/07/2017 11:15

Having worked full time for about 95% of my children's school years,
I actually found the high school years the hardest in many ways. Their activities go on until later, loads of homework to get through. Far more relationship issues at school, all needed listening to, and working on, trying to deliver/collect them across county at incompatible times. Dealing with teenage angst etc. So whilst there is less absolute responsibility (you can at least leave them in the house alone) the need for more hands on parenting is, in my experience, greater at this age.
You may well also hit the both doing exams at the same time bit - that's fun!
I managed to change my working pattern so I was home for their return from school most evenings.
If your life runs well as it is, and as you do not have the need for additional income, then do not be pressured into working full time, unless YOU want to. Your children may also associate your wedding with the loss of Mum being there when they get back from school. (This is absolutely not saying that parents working full time is wrong) The change from junior to secondary school can take some adjusting to, being there for your youngest may help.

Squishedstrawberry4 · 10/07/2017 11:16

He's not thinking of the kids needs or your mental health to hold everything together or how you'd prefer to bring up your kids or the fact there is enough in the pot. His worries are all about money and nothing else.

Lilyrosesunshine · 10/07/2017 11:16

I agree staying PT makes the best sense for all.

Have you planned for when your dc are 18 or out of education and you no longer get the high maintenance into the budget?

Dashper · 10/07/2017 11:17

Stand your ground. Does he understand all the household admin/crap you can get done when you're not at work too? Does he have DC?
I work 19.5 hours a week, 10 minutes from home. DH has to commute. We have agreed that I'll stick with those hours until DS leaves home. It's a good balance for the whole family.

pinkunicornsarefluffy · 10/07/2017 11:17

YANBU about wanting to work part time if you can afford it. He should understand and respect that. You have enough money to not freeload off him so he needs to let it go.

I'm glad you are going to protect your equity. Can he put money aside to buy a property that he can rent out? So that way he is building up an asset whilst you rightfully protect your own?

DancingLedge · 10/07/2017 11:17

Glad to hear your children are delighted.
But, and it's a big but, living full time through their teen years may be very different from spending some leisure time together.

One differing expectation about working and money has now emerged.
You simply don't know what differences about teen rearing, what you do for and expect from your DC, will emerge.

You've come here , rather than simply talking out your difference with partner. Red flag, as regards future 'co-parenting' .

Squishedstrawberry4 · 10/07/2017 11:18

I don't think I could be with someone who cared so little for your needs and the kids needs. Maybe he should get some counselling or financial advice

5moreminutes · 10/07/2017 11:18

It sounds as though you will be worse off if you move in together, and he will be better off.

I'd be inclined to carry on as you are, and not have him move in tbh.

If you really want to live together point out to him that you are doing very well as you are without any financial input from him. He's the one gaining from moving in with you and sharing your low mortgage, so you will not be taking a big hit to your lifestyle and ability to be there for your children in order to bring in money you do not need.

TestTubeTeen · 10/07/2017 11:21

How much would he be putting into this 'pot'?

Does he have maintenance payments to make to children of his own?

Anyway, you manage perfectly well at present and you don't wish to change your lifestyle. So don't!

I would have a think about your pension, though. Working p/t and low salaries leave women very exposed in the future.

WillRikersExtraNipple · 10/07/2017 11:21

How does he make you a better parent when he wants you to do something you know to not be in the best interests of your children?

megletthesecond · 10/07/2017 11:29

Yanbu. I think you're in a tricky situation and I'm not sure he sounds like he's ready to settle down. There's a potential for it to get very messy financially.

TBH as a lp who can also work part time and pay the mortgage I would never move in with someone or marry until my dc's were financially secure adults and I'd locked their inheritance down.

TwattyvonTwatofTwatsville · 10/07/2017 11:37

Yes, he has children from his marriage and pays maintenance himself to his ex.

After maintenance payments he would have around £3800 net a month to put into the 'pot', so significantly more than me.

Your point about pensions is very valid. I have one (not huge, mind) and make regular payments in line with what I can afford, but will need to increase my earnings and pension contributions in the future once the kids are older in order to make sure I can manage in my dotage.

I accept that, working FT is not the issue, the issue is working FT now.

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