To wonder how gay men do it?

[Bunlicker]

Because from reading the relationships threads here it has become apparent to me that #allmen can't see dirt. Or do the washing up. Or the laundry, and that some are just not very good at doing the laundry.

And here's me not knowing you could be 'bad' at something that literally involves sticking clothes in a hole.

How do these men get dressed in the mornings, or does the inability to take clothing out of the washing machine not extend to taking clothes out of other places?

Surely gay men are also kept blind to the secret women's ways of washing clothes, as handed down from mother to daughter since the very first Egyptian laundry rooms?

In fact, were these symbols actually hieroglyphics?

So do gay men just sit around together looking forlornly at grubby unironed work shirts with collar stains.

Do they use paper plates since neither of them could possibly wash the dishes?

Are they just both hoping that one day they will stumble upon the magical place that the mop resides so they can stop sticking to floors?

I had literally no clue what most of those symbols were. I do all the laundry. 40 degree cotton wash. Seems ok
same as me. I used to use the 40 degree wash until that conked out (from overuse) so now I just use the 30 degree one or the 30 min quick one. Why they put so many programmes on machines seems crackers - why not just have a cold wash (no idea why but it sounds reasonable), a medium wash (for normal) & a hot wash (for the really grubby stuff), plus a quick one, and a spin. 5 programmes and it would mean less bits to go wrong!
My mum has never let anyone do anything but complains that my dad doesn't help. I learnt by trial & error when I moved out. My dad has no clue and now won't even try because he'll be wrong whatever he does or doesn't do. Some women make it harder for men.

Thankfully not all men are useless lumps but there are far too many who are.

While some women insist on being martyrs and enabling these men, there's not much hope for change. Too many women have been brainwashed to believe that they cannot live happy and fulfilling lives without being with a man, no matter how useless they are.

Yes, some of this behaviour is as a result of laziness but just as many are the result of men assuming themselves to be in some way superior and housework/parenting to be beneath them. That if you're born with a vagina it's automatically assumed that you are programmed with the knowledge to undertake all housekeeping tasks.

I don't see it changing unless the women decide they have had enough.

I don't see it changing unless the women decide they have had enough.

And the men who aren't assholes put pressure on the assholes too.

klip Agree with you, what the heck does 'do not dry' mean? Is it for swimwear that has to be kept in a bucket of water when not in use?

It's only used by mermaids, really.

Surely it just means air dry and don't use electric heaters or dryers

My husband isn't ex army and lived at home until we got together. His mum was a stay at home mum, his dad did no housework (although he did cook sometimes) and he can manage to do the laundry / shopping / cooking / dishwasher just as well as I do. We have a cleaner for the rest but if we didn't he'd be chipping in with that too.

I googled, "do not dry" doesn't mean Do Not Dry, it means do not put in dryer, which therefore would be a more accurate description.

Not all men are useless. Mine does the housework and he does it really well - he learned from me after we married (before he would hire a cleaner and send laundary out). But then again I'm not the type to nag a man into submission if he makes a single mistake in household work & I'm certainly not the type who considers the housework as a badge of being a housewife lol

I lived with my grandparents until I moved out, my grandad retired early in his 50s before I was born because he went blind, my grandma was working full time until very recently. Before he was a typical bloke, never changed a nappy, put a wash on, cooked for himself. As soon as he left work, he picked up most of the household tasks and still does the majority of them now. Not always well due to his eyes but he is obsessed, I get told off for washing up or putting anything in the wash because it's his job. Used to have tea on the table for me when I got home from school. Still tidies my room now He was happy for me to learn how to cook because my mum can't do anything more complex than a microwave meal or a cuppasoup and I have to look after her she thinks boiling pasta is too complicated

I'm a student now and I've just moved into a house that doesn't have a cleaner, although I always clean up after myself, it occurred to me last night I had no idea how I would, for example, clean a bath. A couple of hours later and the house is cleaner than when I came in.

Funny how I managed to pick most of it up easily but after 2 years some male housemates still really just can't wipe hair out of the sink, take the bin out or stick the washing machine on and boiling a pan is just too complicated for their delicate masculine sensibilities

I'm irritated my husband is perfectly capable but strangely incapable if he's had a hard day at work even if as the case today I'm up 2hrs before him and am home 2hrs after him from work! And his mother is here so his manners, responsibility everything turn to shit. I used to think it was her I disliked but it's him when she's here he's lazy and entitled!!

Sorry personal rant on otherwise normal thread!