To wonder how gay men do it?

[Bunlicker]

Because from reading the relationships threads here it has become apparent to me that #allmen can't see dirt. Or do the washing up. Or the laundry, and that some are just not very good at doing the laundry.

And here's me not knowing you could be 'bad' at something that literally involves sticking clothes in a hole.

How do these men get dressed in the mornings, or does the inability to take clothing out of the washing machine not extend to taking clothes out of other places?

Surely gay men are also kept blind to the secret women's ways of washing clothes, as handed down from mother to daughter since the very first Egyptian laundry rooms?

In fact, were these symbols actually hieroglyphics?

So do gay men just sit around together looking forlornly at grubby unironed work shirts with collar stains.

Do they use paper plates since neither of them could possibly wash the dishes?

Are they just both hoping that one day they will stumble upon the magical place that the mop resides so they can stop sticking to floors?

Oops misinterpret

My dh and my ds's can do all things domestic.
Dh practically brought himself up and we taught the kids from being young how to look after themselves.
their partners are well happy and have no complaints on the domestic front
In fact I'm sure she wouldn't mind me saying but ds1 is better than his partner, she can't cook or operate a washing machine he is teaching her.
It was always important to me that we taught them not to rely on a woman and it was their responsibility.
Both were washing and ironing own uniform at 11, and had already learned much more before this age.

I managed to marry a fully functioning human being and within 6 months he had "forgotten" how to run a house at all....it seems the overload of x chromosomes cancelled out his competence....but then again it also led to DV.......go figure.
Dangerous things X chromosomes!

Disclaimer...despite having x chromosomes I seem to be rather defective in the clean/tidy area though laundry is my speciality.

I should say that now he is ex and has somehow managed to remember how to clean/tidy/cook/wash.
He's still an arse though.

Now he is an ex he has regained many of the lost skills....astonishing.
He's still an arse though.

whoops!!!!

fool

It's never their fault obviously. Those damn X chromosomes put them off their game.

Umm, straight man here, just did three loads of washing, ironed washing, blitzed the en suite(haven’t done it in a while thought), made a quiche and a tarte tatin. Girlfriend was here and she had to elbow me out the way to do the washing up cos she was feeling left out.

(It’s not like this every week)

Mine 'once' complained that I didn't hang 'his' shirts up when I hung the washing up in the evening when I went to bed. I was driving him to work at the time. At the end of the 15min rant about the fact that I 'could' hang ''his' shirts up can leave both mine and DS's washing unhung for him to hang up that has never reoccured. Sometimes he not only puts the washing on but hangs it all up as well now!

Fergus425 you could shave your legs with the creases DP puts in school trousers grin

I didn't do a load of laundry until I was 21 and had moved out! My mother booted me out once I'd reached adulthood without teaching me how to boil an egg, scrub a toilet or fill a dishwasher.

I don't even separate my white laundry, I just stick everything on a 40 degree eco spin and then tumble dry it

Bosch speed perfect mixed load 40 degrees for everything in my house
Exactly the same in this house too.

Oh, and I don't own an iron! I don't own any clothes expensive enough that the fabric creases 😂

travellinglighter - I hope you weren't serving the quiche and the tarte tatin in the same meal - that's too much pastry for one sitting!

My understanding of these symbols

YABU

Dimples

My partner does all the laundry! He's far better at it than me.

You want either ex-Forces or a man who has lived alone for some years - student life does not count - and has got out of the idea - if he ever had it - that these jobs do themselves.

My father was blind and I was initiated into the art of housework at an early age. When I was, I think, ten, my mother found a small ironing board, the right height for me, so that we could share that job. It was a good chance for us to talk and we made a point of chatting about my day at school while we did it.

I'm 1952 vintage. In my day girls were taught at school, if they did not already know it, how to sew on a button and other such basics, but boys weren't. Has that changed?

My DH is ace at doing the washing and ironing. And cooking. And vacuuming. I do it too I hasten to add. But he will crack on without instruction. I don't think I could be with someone who let me do everything. My dad was the same, so I used to men having parity with chores.

Those threads don't remind me of any of the men in my family!
Amongst my friends only a tiny handful have partners like that

Threads about moaning about how men don't do much at home are naturally going to attract women who are with men who don't do much at home, but that's not representative of the population.

I think your DH is in the minority, actually!

Maybe if you stopped calling your relationship issues "men issues" you might resolve some of them and have a better balance?

In my day girls were taught at school, if they did not already know it, how to sew on a button and other such basics, but boys weren't. Has that changed?

I was at high school 2002 - 2008 and there was basic sewing classes but people could choose if they wanted to take home economics or woodwork, so generally boys chose the latter. We also weren't taught basics like how to sew on a button, but my mum has a cracking plastic bag holder hanging in her kitchen

My gay son has just had a huge row with his housemates because of their lack of cleaning.
His house generally is spotless unless they've had a house party the night before. He's a lot cleaner and tider than I am.

My DH "can't" do lots of household chores. What that actually means is that he has fuck all interest in doing them so doesn't even attempt to do them effectively. Except washing up, he's great at that.

My 19 & 16 year old DSs know how to cook, clean, use the washing machine, iron etc etc.... History shall not repeat itself here.

Oh, and both DSs did sewing at school. Not for long enough to make themselves clothing or curtains or anything but certainly enough to see on a button.