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Jacob Rees-Mogg - Prime Minister?

154 replies

weresquirrel · 08/07/2017 14:37

I know he is very posh and comes across as old fashioned and a bit quirky/eccentric, but he came across very well on Question Time, made some good points and seemed to understand a lot of the problems people are going through, was articulate and not shouty.

I know a lot of people will hate him simply because he is "posh", rich and old fashioned but would he make a good Prime Minister? I think he would.

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donquixotedelamancha · 08/07/2017 15:56

The full breakdown of his voting record is here: www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24926/jacob_rees-mogg/north_east_somerset/votes

Some highlights:
"Consistently voted against equal gay rights"
"Generally voted against laws to promote equality and human rights"
"Consistently voted against strengthening the Military Covenant"
"Almost always voted against a right to remain for EU nationals already in living in the UK"
"Consistently voted for reducing housing benefit for social tenants deemed to have excess bedrooms (which Labour describe as the "bedroom tax")"
"Consistently voted against increasing the tax rate applied to income over £150,000"
"Consistently voted for university tuition fees"
"Consistently voted for mass surveillance of people’s communications and activities"

brasty · 08/07/2017 16:03

Seriously? I can't believe anyone has suggested this. Are you OP his pr person sounding out the populace?
Personality matters in modern politics. There is no way someone like him will ever be British PM

Scaverin · 08/07/2017 16:05

There is no way someone like him will ever be British PM

Dammit you've jinxed it. It's probably a sure thing now Wink

-remembers scoffing at the idea of Trump ever being Pres-

donquixotedelamancha · 08/07/2017 16:09

I quite like JRM. He is more honest about what he believes than many Tory MPs and he's very articulate.

He's opposed to: devolution, voting reform, the EU, benefits for poor people, the NHS, state education, homosexuality.

He's in favour of: privatisation of everything, less oversight of government, deregulation of big business, lower taxes for the rich, more power for state security apparatus, cutting public services, getting rid of 'foreigners'.

He's doesn't seem a bad person, but he comes from such privilege that he genuinely believes that people can just become wealthy if they put a bit of effort in. He wants the UK to be more like it was 50 years ago.

He has the right to argue for his beliefs. I am, however, still surprised that this worldview has won the last 3 elections.

AufderAutobahn · 08/07/2017 16:10

People will probably say I am BVVVVVVU here but I view Theresa May as the best person currently in the party for the job. Not that I am a fan of hers, I just can't see anyone else in the Conservative Party in that role. Michael Gove? Erm... No.

Scaverin · 08/07/2017 16:14

Actually if I was appointed Tory top dog for the day I'd give the gig to Ken Clarke. And then sit back and watch every other member of the party have a severe attack of the vapours!

WhatALoadOfOldBollocks · 08/07/2017 16:24

Well, I don't much like his voting record. Here's just a selection:

Consistently voted against equal gay rights

Consistently voted against allowing marriage between two people of same sex

Generally voted against laws to promote equality and human rights

Consistently voted against allowing terminally ill people to be given assistance to end their life

Consistently voted against investigations into the Iraq war

Consistently voted for reducing housing benefit for social tenants deemed to have excess bedrooms (which Labour describe as the "bedroom tax")

Consistently voted against raising welfare benefits at least in line with prices

Consistently voted against paying higher benefits over longer periods for those unable to work due to illness or disability

Consistently voted for a reduction in spending on welfare benefits

Consistently voted against spending public money to create guaranteed jobs for young people who have spent a long time unemployed

Consistently voted against increasing the tax rate applied to income over £150,000

Almost always voted against a banker’s bonus tax

Consistently voted against an annual tax on the value of expensive homes (popularly known as a mansion tax)

Consistently voted for raising England’s undergraduate tuition fee cap to £9,000 per year

Consistently voted for ending financial support for some 16-19 year olds in training and further education

Consistently voted against a more proportional system for electing MPs

Generally voted against measures to prevent climate change

Consistently voted for selling England’s state owned forests

Generally voted against financial incentives for low carbon emission electricity generation methods

Almost always voted for culling badgers to tackle bovine tuberculosis

Almost always voted against slowing the rise in rail fares

Consistently voted against greater regulation of gambling

Almost always voted for restricting the scope of legal aid

Hmm
SomethingOnce · 08/07/2017 16:27

Conservative HQ testing the waters I see.

ShoesHaveSouls · 08/07/2017 16:27

he comes from such privilege that he genuinely believes that people can just become wealthy if they put a bit of effort in. He wants the UK to be more like it was 50 years ago.

Absolutely.

He, no doubt, genuinely believes he has got where he is today through his own hard work - conveniently forgetting the immense privilege he started out with by chance of birth.

Reminds me of the IT crowd: "When I first started this company, I had just 2 things: a dream and 6 million pounds."

SomethingOnce · 08/07/2017 16:28

PS Dream on.

C8H10N4O2 · 08/07/2017 16:30

@Scaverin good shout! Gin

weresquirrel · 08/07/2017 16:33

Ha ha. I take that as a no then? I just thought he was better than Theresa May or Boris.

Agree his voting record is pretty awful. Hadn't seen that so thanks for whoever posted it.

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RandomlyGenerated · 08/07/2017 16:36

JRM:

Consistently voted against increasing the tax rate applied to income over £150,000

Almost always voted against a banker’s bonus tax

Consistently voted against an annual tax on the value of expensive homes (popularly known as a mansion tax)

So no self interest there then.

And here's my personal "favourites":

Consistently voted for university tuition fees

Consistently voted against restrictions on fees charged to tenants by letting agents

So very in touch with the average Joe.

BabsGanoush · 08/07/2017 16:40

He has a following:

www.facebook.com/readyformogg

ThaliaLuxurySpa · 08/07/2017 18:31

Look, Jacob, mate...we'll put it down to newborn baby euphoria and/or sleep deprivation, but starting your own MumsNet thread?

Really?

Scaverin · 08/07/2017 18:35

I doubt Mogg is much into nighttime feeds and nappy changes. 😅

His beloved aged nanny is probably there to deal with the more prosaic parts of life with a newborn.

PsychoPumpkin · 08/07/2017 18:37

Absolutely not! I'd rather keep Theresa May & that's saying something Confused

Birdsbeesandtrees · 08/07/2017 18:37

What exactly do PPs like about him ?

BishopBrennansArse · 08/07/2017 18:39

Never mind Jeremy Corbin taking us back to the 1970s Rees-Mogg would make it the 1870s! Dickensian!

MrsTerryPratchett · 08/07/2017 18:40

Conservative HQ testing the waters I see.

I'm more cynical. I think these threads get started by Labour HQ to rile us up.

gluteustothemaximus · 08/07/2017 18:43

God, I hope not.

TizzyDongue · 08/07/2017 18:46

If he has done anything helpful it's this picture and comment.

Honestly it makes me laugh like a drain: where will he go for his tattoos now?

Jacob Rees-Mogg - Prime Minister?
bemusedbewildered · 08/07/2017 18:47

Ha - well, JRM is about as bad a tory as JC is a labour person to me - both parties need to go for more centrist politicians. Ruth Davidson would get my vote but Brexit means the next 4 years are going to make whoever delivers that very unpopular.

If Brexit wasn't going to be a huge problem, May would already be out. Nobody really wants it.

MrsTerryPratchett · 08/07/2017 18:48

Agree his voting record is pretty awful. Hadn't seen that so thanks for whoever posted it. And yet you think he'd make a good PM.

You seem like a nice enough person but that's is so infuriating. You want someone to lead the country and you haven't bothered to check what they actually DO as part of parliamentary democracy. FFS no wonder the country is in such a mess.

This stuff actually matters. It's not like you have to read long-form Hansard any more. You can just Google stuff. It's piss easy.

BoreOfWhabylon · 08/07/2017 18:58

Did anyone hear JR-M and little Sixtus on Radio4 Dead Ringers today? Grin

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08wr9gg

(starts @ 13.05)

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