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AIBU?

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To feel utterly heartbroken that DH will miss the birth of our first baby (and to partly blame myself)...?

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ButterflyFree · 07/07/2017 02:26

It's going to be a long one, but I'll make it comprehensive so as not to drip feed.

I'm British and DH is of a different nationality, and I have lived with him in his home country for the past 5+ years. I'll be 37 weeks pregnant on Saturday with our first baby; a little boy, whom we both simply cannot wait to meet. Most of my maternity care has taken place in our country of residence, but DH and I decided together that we would come to my family home in London for the summer and that I would give birth here, for a number of reasons:

⁃	Our country of residence is extremely hot at this time of year, and I wouldn't be able to set foot outside in the heat. Family home in London is next to a park & the Thames; perfect for pregnant walks (waddles), & strolls with the pram once baby arrives. 
⁃	My due date is 29th July, and DH's work (which is seasonal) was due to take him to Germany for the majority of August. So, if he got one or two days off during the month-long training camp, he would be able to hop on a short haul flight and come to visit us in London more easily, as opposed to a 7+ hr flight to his home country. 
⁃	The fact that DH was supposed to be in Germany with work in August also meant that it made sense for me to be in London, staying with my mother, so that I would have help adapting to life with a newborn. 
⁃	In DH's culture it is tradition for the new mum and baby to stay at her mother's house for the first 40 days after the birth.
⁃	My grandparents - to whom I am exceptionally close - would not be well enough to take the long-haul flight to come and meet the baby. Whereas DH's family would be more than willing and able to come to London - plus I'll be returning back home to them a month after delivering anyway. 

So, for all the above reasons, it made absolute sense to us both that I should deliver in London. At this point I must also confirm that yes, we are paying for 100% private maternity care here - before I get flamed and accused of 'living a cushy expat lifestyle and coming back to sponge off the NHS' - which I was indeed accused of on another thread of a different topic a little while back...!

Anyway, spool forward to now: DH and I had been in London since the end of May, having a wonderful time, spending quality time together before baby comes and with my family, and continuing to attend my antenatal appointments at the private wing at which I am booked to deliver. The pregnancy has been progressing perfectly and everything was marvellous.

Suddenly and unexpectedly, DH got called up to his country's compulsory military service. It can happen anytime between the age of 18-30 (he's 26), but new recruits are usually only ever called up to start in January. This is the first time they've ever done a new call-up session in July. He had to leave me and return home the very next day in order to answer the call of duty and complete the (rather lengthy) registration process. He appealed to a committee to delay his call-up due to the fact that his wife is about to give birth to our first baby any day now, but there are no exceptions made.

To make matters worse, the 1-year long military service (which will mean he cannot do his usual job for a whole year) includes a 45-day 'lockdown' period with absolutely no communication with the outside world, starting on 1st August. So I won't even be able to talk to my DH or send him pics & videos of our newborn baby boy for a month and a half.

I am a bag of pregnancy-hormone fuelled emotions anyway, but this situation has just utterly devastated me. I'm not usually one who shows my emotions but ever since he got the call-up I've been crying every day, and the smallest thing can set me off. I am completely and utterly heartbroken that my beloved DH will be forced to miss the precious, priceless moment of our first baby being born, and won't even get to meet our son until he's almost 2 months old. Of course DH is also beyond devastated and he has tried every possible avenue to get a delay, but to no avail.

The two of us are sitting on opposite sides of the world, both so excited about our impending arrival, but both completely gutted about these unforeseen circumstances and what they mean for us. And I can't help but blame myself somehow - even though all our reasons for choosing to have the baby in London made perfect sense at the time, and we could never have predicted this. But if I had just decided to stay in our country of residence and give birth there (which also would've been MUCH cheaper), at least DH would be let out of the military base for one day when I would go into labour. Of course it's far too late for me to fly back and have the baby there now - if I could, I would.

AIBU to feel so utterly bereft and robbed of one of the most magical moments in life? And to worry about how I will cope with the emotions of giving birth and DH not being able to be there? This should be the most joyous and exciting time but instead I am here sobbing my eyes out to sleep every night... It breaks my heart to think that DH will not be the first one to see and hold our baby. Or AIB a massive drama queen? Is it something I should just take on the chin because women throughout the generations have had to deal with giving birth without their DHs by their side? Has anyone else been in a similar situation, and if so, how did you and your DH cope?

Thank you to anyone who has read all the way to the end of my post of epic proportions - to be honest it has been cathartic just to write it all down and get it out. Flowers

OP posts:
NameChange30 · 07/07/2017 07:53

My last post was in response to Leilaniii.

I can't believe people are comparing this to war situations. He's not fighting in a war, his country is not at war, this is completely unnecessary.

SwissChristmasMuseum · 07/07/2017 07:58

Not comparing it to war at all. Just that separation at bad Times has always happened for various reasons.

WifeofDarth · 07/07/2017 08:00

That sounds really tough Flowers
I'd like to add another suggestion to the 'video diaries' one - that DH records himself reading a story that you can play to your baby (before and after arrival) so that his voice stays familiar.

NameChange30 · 07/07/2017 08:01

I understand that. But you're not understanding me. I'm saying that war is a reason I could accept. Compulsory military service isn't a reason I would accept, especially not when they're so strict about timing, contact etc.

SwissChristmasMuseum · 07/07/2017 08:01

Sorry, Butterfly, I should have RTT! Saw RhodaBorrocks has already said all that Grin

NameChange30 · 07/07/2017 08:02

Cross post, mine was in response to Swiss.

SwissChristmasMuseum · 07/07/2017 08:04

AnotherEmma how do you think a country prepares for war then, if not by military service? I'm not saying whether I think that's right or wrong...

SwissChristmasMuseum · 07/07/2017 08:07

Although the circumstances in this case are particularly tough. Other countries which have it have a particular age at which you have to do it, so at least you can plan.

Leilaniii · 07/07/2017 08:13

I can't believe people are comparing this to war situations. He's not fighting in a war, his country is not at war, this is completely unnecessary.

Another misinformed post. The UAE army is currently involved in many peace-keeping operations around the Middle East. Also Maybe take a look at the situation with Qatar, a situation which could potentially escalate at any time.

NameChange30 · 07/07/2017 08:13

Well as far as I can gather from all the lessons and books and films about the first and second world wars I believe several countries managed to conscript and train soldiers that had never done military service. So there's that.

NameChange30 · 07/07/2017 08:16

My post was in response to Swiss.

LeilaniiiI
It depends on your definition of "at war", doesn't it? By your definition, most countries are at war all the time. (The UK army has been involved in "peace keeping operations" - ha! - without requiring military service). But that's not my definition of being at war.

RTKangaMummy · 07/07/2017 08:22

Some great suggestions on this thread

Hope the birth goes well @ButterflyFree

If your son is born here, he is uk citizen by birth as well as you being his mum so does this mean in 20 years time if same rule applies he will be exempt from national service?

AlbusPercival · 07/07/2017 08:31

I think you might need to throw a bit if money at the situation.

Firstly I would suggest a doula. I'm sure th care at your private hospital will be amazing, but a doula is dedicated just to you, will stay for all of labour. They can hold your hand. Mine spent time brushing my hair as I found it relaxing, rubbing my back etc, all the things a present husband would do. But they also understand what is happening and can help with early breastfeeding etc. I would recommend them to any pregnant woman but even more so in your situation. If you would like mine's contact details pm me, though I have no idea of her availability.

I would also suggest a birth photographer/ videographer. Not something I had, but I believe they are trained to be very discreet and maybe the next best thing for your DH.

Best of luck and agree with previous sentiments, this sucks, but your baby and DH will have many years to form a wonderful bond.

WankYouForTheMusic · 07/07/2017 08:31

Leaving the country and not going back is an option, albeit an extreme one.

Could you expand on that?

I'm wondering what you would expect him to do otherwise, because obviously it isn't just a matter of legging it but also of having somewhere to go.

Not wanting to do compulsory military service isn't in itself a reason to be granted asylum. He apparently isn't a citizen of anywhere else. He could have permanent residency somewhere, and if OP is British it's possible she could sponsor him as they appear to have means. But there are things like English language requirements, and it takes a little while to organise. Wouldn't just be a question of jump on plane and go, and you can't come in as a visitor then switch to a spousal visa inside the UK.

alteredimages · 07/07/2017 08:31

Totally not the point of the thread but actually the UAE armed forces are already involved in a war in Yemen at the moment and conscripts have been deployed there in combat operations.

Really hope everything goes well for you @ButterflyFree, it is great that you have support from the in-laws.

confusedat23 · 07/07/2017 08:33

Sorry if this has already been asked...

But OP you said his lockdown starts from1st August and that you are having an Induction at 39 weeks (Which is 23rd July if you are 37 weeks this Saturday) surely you will have time to skype etc until 1st August?

Alanna1 · 07/07/2017 08:44

I've not read the whole thread but wanted to ask if your DH had taken legal advice in his home country?

NameChange30 · 07/07/2017 08:45

Sorry for derail. I stand corrected re Yemen and good point re time required for getting a spousal visa etc.

I think Albus's suggestions of a doula and a birth photographer / videographer are excellent.

Rhubarbginisnotasin · 07/07/2017 08:57

If your son is born here, he is uk citizen by birth as well as you being his mum so does this mean in 20 years time if same rule applies he will be exempt from national service?

As far as the Emiratis are concerned any child born to a married Emirati male is an Emirati. There's no ifs buts or maybe's. The fact the wee one will have British nationality means nothing. You cannot have dual citizenship if you are Emirati. Even been found with the passport from another country means being in very hot water but the fact is most people in this part of the world think a passport is the b all and end all of everything so they want one. They really don't have a clue that its just a travel document and your birth certificate is the important thing. Most people who can pass on UK nationality to their children in this situation go for the certificate of entitlement, or the certificate to right of abode, thats issued by the UK authorities and is pasted in the back of their Emirati, for eg, passport. Its way less hassle than sneaking about like a thief in the night with a separate passport.

However, even if the wee one could have dual citizenship it would not prevent him or her doing national service. The UK government is very clear on dual citizenship not being a means to an end.

Rhubarbginisnotasin · 07/07/2017 09:00

Leaving the country and not going back is an option, albeit an extreme one

Im sorry but that's just ridiculous.

Apart from loads of other practicalities such as immigration status etc in the UK do you really think that exiling yourself forever so you dont have to do national service is a good idea?

And what would happen if he did abscond? Well he'd just be arrested the first time he rocked up at the airport even if it was 20 years from now.

RTKangaMummy · 07/07/2017 09:03

Thank you for explaining @Rhubarbginisnotasin

SoupDragon · 07/07/2017 09:10

Yes he will have missed the start but he will have a whole amazing lifetime with this child. There is so much to look forward to.

regardless of whether your husband can make it to the birth or not you'll never forget the first time you say to him 'this is our son'.

Hold onto these two thoughts because they are 100% true. There are many magical moments in a child's life.

stopmoaningpip · 07/07/2017 09:13

Haven't read the full thread but my dad didn't meet my sibling for 2 months as he was working overseas - not military but it was all very different then. No idea how long post would have taken to get there with photos, there certainly wasn't any email or anything. I'm sure my parents were disappointed but everyone seems to have survived!
Sorry you're in this situation but you will get through it and it sounds like being with your mum is the right place for you and baby.

PineappleScrunchie · 07/07/2017 09:28

Agree that it's not about passports, but as a British citizen by birth (as born in the UK), his children will automatically be British citizens too wherever they are born. As a British citizen just by descent they wouldn't be unless they are too born in the U.K. So it does confer an advantage.

WellThisIsShit · 07/07/2017 09:42

How upsetting for you, and a shock as well. Both of you must feel sucker punched as it seems to have come out of nowhere.

Perfectly believable though, not quite sure why it wouldn't be really, though I suppose if posters are unfamiliar with the regions culture/s and politics they might not get how much control the state can have over the individual? Ah well, never mind, I suppose you could find a silver lining - at least you don't have any worries around infidelity and outrageous lies!

I'm glad you are able to start making the best of it, though it's perfectly reasonable to be very upset about it all. I think you should try and roll with it when you get flashes of sadness as you go along. It really is shit and it really is unfair.

You will both have a reunion to look forwards to and in the end it won't matter so much - time will help so much with this, although it might be hard to see it right now.

You'll both be parents for ever, and the circumstances of its starting will be just one little bit of a lifetime of happenings and wonderful moments.

You'll be able to celebrate the birth, though in different ways from the way you'd originally imagined, but also you'll both be able to get excited about so many 'firsts' and all the fabulous moments that will just happen as you go along, that you can't plan or anticipate.

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