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...to ask if yours goes up every year?

102 replies

multivac · 06/07/2017 18:25

Your salary, I mean. Obviously I know what the situation is in the public sector (and how it sucks); but what's happening in the private sector? I remember, many aeons ago, that I used to get an annual pay review, which would inevitably be followed by a small, but significant rise. Because, y'know, bread and beer and bananas were all going up in price, and that seemed like the reasonable thing to do.

I haven't had a rise in over seven years now, despite the cost of living soaring - and my job becoming considerably more demanding. I've been thinking, well, that's normal (aus-fucking-terity); and, as in the public sector, it sucks.

But am I missing something? Is every else's salary still going up, year on year, even without a change of job title? I don't need specific details, obviously, but if anyone is prepared to share what their job is, and whether or not they expect an annual, incremental rise, I would find it hugely helpful...

Thank you.

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Ecureuil · 06/07/2017 18:27

I'm a SAHM currently but yeah, DH's pay goes up annually (dependent on his performance grade). It's usually about 5%. If he didn't perform well it would remain the same.

Ecureuil · 06/07/2017 18:27

Oh and he works in financial services.

SpongySand · 06/07/2017 18:28

^ same mine goes up based on performance. I believe public sector should be the same, work hard get rewarded.

SpongySand · 06/07/2017 18:28

I also work in banking

GreenHillsOfHome · 06/07/2017 18:30

I work for a bank and dh is in retail. Both of us have salary increases every April - he gets 2% and mine is performance based and averages 3%.

HipsterHunter · 06/07/2017 18:30

Nothing inflationary, you can move up a bit 'in band' if you perform well and you move up a band if you get a promotion

Actually they have reduced the pay scales for the banding since I joined 8 years ago so everyone got 'hit' on their next promotion with a much smaller increase than they would have got

Grad starting salaries have only gone up a few k since I joined. .

youngestisapsycho · 06/07/2017 18:32

I work for a small company... not had a pay rise in 3 years... get a Xmas bonus each year though.

Madwoman5 · 06/07/2017 18:32

Not a bean for five years. We can't afford it is the usual line.

RedBlu · 06/07/2017 18:33

I work in legal service and generally get between a 2-5% payrise each year which is based on company performance and individual performance. Last year I got a 15% payrise for example as the company performed well and I received a salary uplift.

FurbysMakeSexNoises · 06/07/2017 18:33

I'm a GP and my salary has gone down each of the last five years.

Cornettoninja · 06/07/2017 18:34

I've been in the NHS for ages and have had incremental rises when I've changed bands/jobs but that's it.

Dp is private sector and usually negotiates something, whether it's a salary increase, bonus, annual leave or recognised qualifications.

I've worked in all three sectors and they all have their pros and cons. I can't say that the annual leave and sick entitlements aren't generous in the public sector as well as the fact it seems a lot easier to invoke employment rights than in other organisations that are much less bothered about their reputations. At the moment (toddler owner) those benefits are way too valuable to go chasing an unknown potentially rickety pot of gold.

Imaystillbedrunk · 06/07/2017 18:34

Public sector here. I only get a payrise if I get promoted. It's shit. I work in public sector (emergency service) as I want to "give something back" and not the money. It's just really devaluing if you work hard all year, meet your targets, save the service money and end up earning less as the cost of living has gone up.

I've tried working in the corporate world and don't really like it. So rubbish pay it is

Cornettoninja · 06/07/2017 18:38

I believe public sector should be the same, work hard get rewarded.

I can't speak for anywhere else but in the NHS that's the theory for moving up your banding increments, I think there's usually five or six so there's a limit on that incentive. You have to evidence how you've hit performance indicators to gain an increment.

It's not really got longevity behind it though. You don't really want all your staff nurses buggering off chasing management positions every five years.

YouTheCat · 06/07/2017 18:38

My salary has actually gone down in the amount of money I'm paid (by £70 a month and for the same hours). In terms of cost of living I can't even fathom how much it's gone down by. I used to be able to afford stuff and now I can't. Public sector worker here too.

If I work out what I am paid and the hours I work (more than contracted because it's just not possible to do this job starting at 9 so am in before 8.30) I am being paid less than minimum wage.

Rayna37 · 06/07/2017 18:42

Not at all! DH and I both private sector, totally different industries, the last year was the first time for both of us in years that we had a pay rise that wasn't related to a promotion. I went 6 years without a rise from Jan 2009 to late 2014. During that period on the very rare occasions my company had given 1 or 2% it only went to the lowest earners and I missed a later rise as I'd had a recent raise for job reasons. I think DH did 10 years with a previous company without a cost of living raise; bonuses were paid but nothing they'd be committed to continuing. A friend commented recently no raise since starting her job 4 years ago. Basically to get a pay rise you have to change jobs or get promoted. Possible improvements now as both inflation and the minimum wage increasing faster than for years.

allegretto · 06/07/2017 18:46

Mine has been frozen since 2010.

allegretto · 06/07/2017 18:46

Mine has been frozen since 2010.

Angelicinnocent · 06/07/2017 18:46

Many people will get a pay rise simply because they are on minimum wage and it goes up each year. If you earn more than that, it just depends who you work for, their profitability and how much they value you.

Littlecaf · 06/07/2017 18:47

Public sector here also - we have strict targets and only go up an increment if we meet it, so performance related pay.

The 1% is general pay increase over this, it's less than inflation so if your employer doesn't have an increment increase scheme, either performance related or otherwise or not at all, you don't get anything. For example my former employer didn't do anything I'd have to fight for an increment if I wanted one. At least now my pay is related to performance so if I work hard I get it.

The wider issue is however that the private sector get paid more (in my profession) so you lose workers to the private sector, leaving less able in the public. (In theory) for example my DP recently went to the 'dark side' for £15k more, and a better overall package (company car, bonus scheme, okish pension, much much less stress, he's the happiest he's ever been). The only thing negative was the leave allowance which is 5 days less a year than mine. But I get paid £15k less and get shouted at by members of the public regularly.

yorkshapudding · 06/07/2017 18:49

DH works in the private sector and has had a pay rise every year plus bonus for the last 5-6 years. Not me though as I'm in public sector.

multivac · 06/07/2017 18:49

Hmmm. I can see some (predictable) patterns emerging here...

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Notso · 06/07/2017 18:49

DH's company increase pay across the board by £500 a year.

CadnoDrwg · 06/07/2017 18:49

We get a formal pay review every year. For 4 years it was frozen, then we had a 2 year deal of 2% per year. Since then we've had token increases around the 1% mark. This year's pay rise has been fought over since November last year. The company want to attach several changes to our terms and conditions with virtually no renumeration to compensate. Fortunately our union still has sway (collective agreement contracts) and isn't accepting it. Even if it means I don't get a pay rise I'm happy not to have my T&Cs messed with.

Even taking inflation out of the equation I'm over £150 a month worse off because our pension contributions had to increase. Add in inflation and my salary is no longer stretching to cover everything quite as well as it did before so we've had to cut back.

Oddly enough there's always money in the pot for the exec team to have a pay reward...our senior execs had a 40% increase agreed this year and they're trying to say we share in the success of the company. Pft!

Public sector workers who think the private sector all have gold plated salaries are just as deluded as private sector workers who believe the public sector are all raking it in with massive holiday entitlements, golden handshakes, beautiful pensions and flexibility to work pretty much whenever they want. There are winners and losers for both types of employment.

DancingLedge · 06/07/2017 18:51

Self employed.
Yet to get back to 2008 profits.

booellesmum · 06/07/2017 18:52

I work in the NHS and got my 1% this year.
Lucky compared to DH who works in the private sector (computing) and only gets a pay rise once in a blue moon. I think he's had a token pay rise twice in the last decade.

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