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To wonder if a child at a single sex school comes out as transgender

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PlayOnWurtz · 05/07/2017 21:07

Will they be expected to leave the school or will they be allowed to stay?

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Datun · 07/07/2017 17:16

TalkinPeece

Grin
Datun · 07/07/2017 17:19

If you accept that someone has transitioned, then you must be accepting the ideology. If you accept the ideology the person must leave the school.

If you don't agree with the ideology, then you don't agree they have transitioned, and they should stay.

The school can't agree they have transitioned, and then turn round and completely invalidate them by saying they should stay.

Now where did I put that logic...

TalkinPeece · 07/07/2017 19:03

datun

Grin
ChiefClerkDrumknott · 07/07/2017 23:18

Datun Exactly that

grannytomine · 08/07/2017 09:53

Really? Does he have ovaries then? Must be convenient - who needs hormone therapy in that case? I don't have ovaries, they went with the hysterectomy as did my cervix.

Datun · 08/07/2017 10:00

grannytomine

The difference is, you did have them.

Not all women have ovaries, but no man does.

DixieFlatline · 09/07/2017 03:38

I don't have ovaries, they went with the hysterectomy as did my cervix.

A hysterectomy does not necessarily involve removal of the ovaries.

And it sure as fuck doesn't involve insertion of e.g. a prostate.

Ergo... you're still not internally physically the same as a post-op trans male.

grannytomine · 09/07/2017 16:59

It wasn't me who suggested having ovaries was a defining characteristic. I was just stating that I am a woman and I don't have ovaries, or a womb or a cervix. I'm not the same internally as a woman who has her ovaries, womb and cervix but so what?

DixieFlatline · 09/07/2017 17:07

It wasn't me who suggested having ovaries was a defining characteristic. I was just stating that I am a woman and I don't have ovaries, or a womb or a cervix. I'm not the same internally as a woman who has her ovaries, womb and cervix but so what?

Sorry, what was your point then? Who is suggesting having ovaries is a defining characteristic? And why are you quoting my post and not theirs (if it exists)?

MudGolum · 09/07/2017 17:44

Weird how none of these schools teach biology.

LogicalPsycho · 09/07/2017 17:50

Not sure if this has been covered as not RTFT yet, but in reverse, would that be allowed?

Say a m2f transgender pupil wanted to transfer out of their mixed sex school and attend an all girl's school. Would that be allowed?

WeyHay · 09/07/2017 20:38

But if the "politically correct" view is that transwomen are women, and transmen are men, then surely a FtM trans-child cannot stay in a an all-girls' school?

Because transmen are men, right?

VestalVirgin · 13/07/2017 20:40

Wey, one would think so, but the thing with the trans agenda is that trans only really are the other sex when it suits them to claim such.

If not, well, then they happily avail themselves of male-only golf club memberships if male ... or use the women's toilets if female. Or stay at a girls' school.

WeyHay · 14/07/2017 06:48

Indeed Hmm

MidsummerMoo · 14/07/2017 07:26

I do wonder why a child who is so distressed by being a girl that they want to present as a boy would want to stay at an institution for girls.

I also wonder, from the school's perspective, whether some of the reasons they are single sex e.g. innate behaviour/study differences; distraction between sexes don't appear, so it's a non-issue. (Not phrased very well).

Datun · 14/07/2017 07:57

I also wonder, from the school's perspective, whether some of the reasons they are single sex e.g. innate behaviour/study differences; distraction between sexes don't appear, so it's a non-issue. (Not phrased very well).

Yes, that would be interesting. Do they suddenly need a different study plan, do the teachers suddenly unconsciously afford them more time?

I doubt it.

WeyHay · 14/07/2017 09:16

I do wonder why a child who is so distressed by being a girl that they want to present as a boy would want to stay at an institution for girls

Indeed.

I suppose the anxiety is that, for a FtTransM, the atmosphere of a boys only school might be too violent? All kinds of double-think there ...

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