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The one where Trump just can't stop being Trump

976 replies

TheClaws · 01/07/2017 05:34

Time for a new 'un.

Old thread here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2958743-Its-too-hot-for-high-drama-but-nonetheless-we-persist-Trump-cont

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orlantina · 10/07/2017 21:06

Watching the American President on Sony.
Ironically, Martin Sheen is the Chief of Staff Grin

Discussing approval ratings and Congress

lionheart · 10/07/2017 21:13

He made a great President. Smile

orlantina · 10/07/2017 21:15

This President is Michael Douglas. Grin

orlantina · 10/07/2017 21:16

Oh - and they're discussing climate change!

lionheart · 10/07/2017 21:21

That could be a problem.

SenecaFalls · 10/07/2017 21:25

Martin Sheen is the Chief of Staff

The American President was written by Aaron Sorkin and inspired the West Wing so Martin Sheen was no coincidence in WW.

BossyBitch · 10/07/2017 22:46

I'm very interested to see what is going to come out of the DJT Jr. story. On the face of it, his statement is devastating:

What DJT Jr. appears to be saying is that he attended the Russian meeting because he was interested in damaging information on HRC and was no longer interested in taking things further once it turned out that this was not the case but that the purpose, instead, was to discuss adoption related topics.

This is obviously a potential bombshell. Just about the only way he could get out of this would be if he somehow managed to credibly claim that he had no reason to assume that the information he thought he might obtain was not from Russian sources. Which seems rather hard to argue given the circumstances.

Circumstantial evidence may also suggest that POTUS would have been in on it if Junior was. These kids appear to run basically every breath they take past daddy. Now this is obviously not in any way a water tight case, but things do seem to be heating up with this one.

Having said that, we're obviously talking about Teflon Don here, the man who was taped bragging about sexually assaulting women and still got elected president.

This should be interesting!

Roussette · 10/07/2017 23:30

Trump Jr's latest tweet makes him sound as thick as pig shit.

He says again yes he did meet to discuss if there was anything on HRC but there was nothing in it. What is he on?

And same day Trump tweets about HRC's 33,000 missing emails. Those Trumps just keep digging don't they...

cozietoesie · 10/07/2017 23:32

The Fredo.

The Fredo

ParanoidBeryl · 11/07/2017 00:13

I don't know what to think of Donny Jr.

Part of me feels immensely sorry for him after reading that account from when he was at uni.

His recent tweets in defence of SCROTUS & the CNN Gif enrage me.

The latest controversy makes me think of someone who is desperate for his father's approval, and who may, unwittingly, have created the tipping point to remove scrotus.

ParanoidBeryl · 11/07/2017 00:16

And where are the ex-Trump-wives these days?

Last I heard was that Ivana had withdrawn the rape allegations (all I recall that night was that he wasn't his usual loving self ). Do you think they have been sufficiently paid off, or threatened, or both?

cozietoesie · 11/07/2017 01:25

Don't feel too sorry, He signed up, after all.

cozietoesie · 11/07/2017 01:27

Oh - and .Ivana is keeping a low profile. Very low.

TheClaws · 11/07/2017 02:28

The New York Times‏Verified account @nytimes 16m16 minutes ago
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Donald Trump Jr. was told that material damaging to Hillary Clinton was part of a Russian effort to aid his father.

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TheClaws · 11/07/2017 02:32

Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson 2m2 minutes ago
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BREAKING: As discussed on this feed throughout the day today, NYT now confirms that the Intel given to Don Jr. was RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT INTEL.

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cozietoesie · 11/07/2017 02:36

Hey Ho.

Roussette · 11/07/2017 06:59

Part of me feels sorry for the young Don Jr because without fail DJT is and was a shit father. And having to grow up with someone like that is horrible. But I save my sympathy for Barron - I wonder if DJT speaks to him from one day to the next? I doubt it.

I just imagine that DonJr realises that he can't even trust his father to have his back.
Particularly as the WH are denying DJT knew of the Russian meeting. So DJT would rather save his skin than support his son. DonJr has probably had to learn to be like he is because of his father and the orange doesn't fall far from the tree

Roussette · 11/07/2017 07:05

I have to say... this feels different - this disclosure from DonJr and all that surrounds it - does anyone think that? It just seems more damning than anything that's gone before.

I made a casual comment about Trump on Twitter and got hundreds of likes and usually i get about 2 ! Twitter is alight with all of this.

MrsT2007 · 11/07/2017 07:21

Interesting how some of Louise Mensch's much maligned reports are turning out right, she reported Jared and Don Jr on tape at Trump Tower.

Wonder if some of her other stuff is true too? Some seems way out there but I might re read it.

I have to admit there's a certain voyeuristic joy in this. Trump is chucking his son under the proverbial bus, in a desperate bid to slow its progress towards the cliff.

This week will be very interesting

TheClaws · 11/07/2017 07:55

Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson 4h4 hours ago
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This email passing a message from the Kremlin to the Trump campaign offering to colludewhich the campaign said yes tois THE SMOKING GUN.

Gosh. Shock I hope so.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/07/2017 08:08

Yes roussette I think it's less circumstantial and more substantive this time, plus donny boy can't be as easily dismissed as someone "who just volunteered on the campaign trail."

The outpouring of criticism on the partnership with Russia on cyber security from dems and reps stopped it in its tracks but so far I haven't seen much of a strong GOP reaction to don Jr's affairs.

Once they start turning on them though, I think it'll be like a breached damn, and it will all collapse fairly quickly. I think we're approaching that point but aren't quite there yet. If all this information is out in public (although it is unnamed sources) then I'd imagine mueller has much more to be working with, and I don't think trump can descend too much further into authoritarian ways as there'll now be stronger pushback so I'm hopeful there'll be a happy resolution to this if we ignore the immense effort it will take to undo the damage inflicted and to rebuild much needed bridges amongst different communities

Bradd Jaffy @BraddJaffy

Statement from Donald Trump Jr.'s lawyer to NBC News: “In my view, this is much ado about nothing.” (via @PeterAlexander)

The one where Trump just can't stop being Trump
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/07/2017 08:12

(I can't read Russian so this could be an article about the health benefits of eating wax)

Lucian Kim @Lucian_Kim
Scoop: After Trump fails to resolve diplomatic dispute, Russia may expel 30 US diplomats, seize embassy property. iz.ru/616241/nataliia-portiakova/diplomaticheskaia-vzaimnost-zamedlennogo-deistviia