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Neighbours have 'made' a driveway which MY parking space blocks

407 replies

SomewhatNewToThis · 30/06/2017 22:52

Trying to keep it short. I live down a very weird road- very few houses have driveways. Some of us have allocated bays in the street. Other people- generally the owners of newer houses- must park in a car park about a minutes walk away created especially for our road. It's literally at the end.

Neighbours have a weird upside down U shaped house, facing the road. They have decided to put a very ugly, gravel driveway on the reminder of their front garden.

However, MY allocated council parking space that belongs to my house is where the exit to their 'driveway' is. Their DD just passed her driving test- hence driveway- and I've had to move my car from my space SIX times since Tuesday.

Neighbours have now sent letter asking me to park elsewhere so their DD can use 'driveway.'

AIBU to have posted a polite letter back basically saying no and that I will not be moving car multiple times a day in future? Hmm

Car park for our houses requires a permit. As I have the allocated space, I cannot apply for a permit as I already have a space. Neighbours have one space in car park provided for those without allocated spaces, however can apply for space for their DD as car park has spare permits available. I can't park anywhere else as you can only park in allocated bays.

AIBU to think my allocated space is mine, it's not my fault it's in front of their house and that I shall not be moving my car from now on?

Diagram provided. Grin

Neighbours have 'made' a driveway which MY parking space blocks
OP posts:
DarthMaiden · 30/06/2017 23:08

Your not being awkward- you're just not being taken for a mug.

The space is part of your property. Losing it would devalue your home.

Your handing money on a plate to them by even considering compromising here.

SoupDragon · 30/06/2017 23:09

With no dropped kerb they don't have a driveway, they have a gravel garden.

reallyanotherone · 30/06/2017 23:10

So they can't access their driveway at all if your car is in your space?

I think you need some proper advice. Obviously you have every right to park there, but if you block their car in does that come under the "preventing access" law?

I'd phone the council. Or maybe the local traffic police...

ToadsforJustice · 30/06/2017 23:10

A bit of gravel on a front garden, without a dropped kerb isn't a drive. Its a bit of gravel on a garden.

AwaywiththePixies27 · 30/06/2017 23:10

Sorry- no dropped kerb. Just a regular pavement. The driveway is not 'meant' to be there, if you see what I mean.

Then definitely report. Shit like this fucks me right off. My disabled late friend had to fork out £2,000 tk have both her kerbs dropped. She had a driveway. Then a little sidegate. They had to get the sidegate bit of kerb dropped as well (hence the +£1,000) because ignorant twats kept parking on that bit of space even though they knee she relied on crutches / or wheelchair when really bad.

OP. Go on your local council website. It's usually pretty easy to find out who hasn't bothered getting planning permission who's applied for PP and the specifics.

SmilingButClueless · 30/06/2017 23:11

YANBU

There seem to be two types of parkers in the world: those who use their own space and / or park considerately, and those who clearly think that their vehicle is too important to be concerned with minor things like whose space it is.

Sadly the number of the latter is increasing.

Disclaimer: I may be biased, having had my own run in with a parking twat today though the resulting autistic meltdown made him move very quickly

ExplodedCloud · 30/06/2017 23:12

If there's no dropped kerb though, they don't have the right to drive over the pavement though so would the OP be any more obstructive than the pavement?

AwaywiththePixies27 · 30/06/2017 23:13

Obviously you have every right to park there, but if you block their car in does that come under the "preventing access" law?

No. They can still access their house via gates etc. You can't technically block access to something that wasnt a driveway in the first place. OP is using that space legally. Neighbour has made a driveway unlawfully by sounds of it.

Gazelda · 30/06/2017 23:13

So,when they've asked you to move, where do they expect you to move to? You don't have a permit from the car park.
Or are they expecting you to shuffle along, wait while daughter gets her car in/out and then you can move back to your own bay?

TestTubeTeen · 30/06/2017 23:14

Could the council put your bay on your side of tne road?

But YANBU. They are being outrageous. Do they understand that the bay on tne road is allocated to you?

HandbagCrazy · 30/06/2017 23:16

YANBU. Stop moving the car. They are bloody cheeky giving themselves a driveway and expecting you to accommodate them!

ChasedByBees · 30/06/2017 23:16

Don't ever move for them again. You're creating the impression for them that they have a legitimate space and a legitimate reason to ask you to move. It will just lead to more hassle.

You need to tell them straight they don't have a drive and will never be able to have a drive due to the location of your space.

Gemini69 · 30/06/2017 23:16

this will get very messy very quickly.... you must get this corrected legally and fast x

LionsOnTour · 30/06/2017 23:17

YANBU I'd do as everyone has suggested and get the council to deal with it. I'd politely tell them that you will continue to park in your spot.

Dear Nieghbours
Just to let you know that I won't be able to park outside my designated parking space. You could contact the Council if you wish to get a parking permit for your daughters car.

Keep it super short but to the point.

Didactylos · 30/06/2017 23:17

Ask for a council visit
If there is no dropped kerb and white lines marking an official entrance to a drive then I think it remains your parking space (that you pay a permit for!) and they have no leg to stand on wrt getting you to move.

Does your permit for that space remains displayed in your car? in case they try and call council to have your car moved?

Madbum · 30/06/2017 23:20

It's not a driveway, YANBU

questionsandquestions · 30/06/2017 23:21

Nah, they don't have a drive. They have a garden. They can't make you move out of your legal space to get a car in and out of their garden. If they want a drive, they ask the council for a dropped kerb and pay for it. But when they ask the council they will be told no, since there's a parking bay there, and there is a car park for their house and they should apply for a permit. As for what they are asking you to do, move overtime their snowflake wants in and out. hahahahahah. No.

questionsandquestions · 30/06/2017 23:22

over time -> every time.

KeepServingTheDrinks · 30/06/2017 23:23

Lions has it. Do that.

Awesome diagram.

YAVVVDNBU

weatherbomb · 30/06/2017 23:23

Just make sure the car isn't parked on their 'drive' when you park and they can't do anything. Sounds like the council need to deal with this as it doesn't sound like planning has been applied for. That said, my friends has to their drive in before the council would drop the kerb - couldn't use it til the kerb had been dropped tho Hmm

weatherbomb · 30/06/2017 23:23

Just make sure the car isn't parked on their 'drive' when you park and they can't do anything. Sounds like the council need to deal with this as it doesn't sound like planning has been applied for. That said, my friends has to their drive in before the council would drop the kerb - couldn't use it til the kerb had been dropped tho Hmm

pinkdelight · 30/06/2017 23:24

Great thread. Am dying for an auxiliary illustration of the: "weird upside down U shaped house"! Pretty please??

Gemini69 · 30/06/2017 23:24

they're really cheeky beggars tbh OP

DesignedForLife · 30/06/2017 23:24

No dropped kerb means it's an illegal crossover. Take photos when the car is on their "drive" and send it to the council/local highways agency. I used to process these, and usually you can apply for a crossover, but the highways agency won't likely give it if there's a parking space in the way.

Dibbles1967 · 30/06/2017 23:25

If you have an allocated space from the council, them throwing some gravel on their garden does not trump that (IMHO)

Only the Council can revoke your allocated space. They are being shites. Their DD should park elsewhere, but do contact the council.

ALLOCATED means its for you! Keep it! don't move your car!