Or is toast with honey a perfectly acceptable breakfast for a 4yo?

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Just that, really. DD(4) is asking for toast with honey for breakfast. DH is telling her she can't have it. I ask why, he says it's just pure sugar and looks at me like I've got two heads. Surely toast with honey is a perfectly normal breakfast option? It's not like she eats it every day (or in fact ever before).

DH is foreign, if that makes a difference. He has some really weird (to me) ideas about what is and isn't an acceptable meal

I think diets make people fat. people lose sense of self regulation and hunger cues and instead usually end up fatter than they went on them. repeat the cycle...

i am honestly not on a rant, I could link you to peer reviewed papers but you can't heed warnings/guidelines because your 'nan had eleven sugars in her brew and lived to 300' so I'll leave you all to your type 2 diabetes and your chubby children

Sorry, I have been size 8 all my adult life and my grown up/teen children are a healthy weight. How did we manage it without obsessing about sugar and carbs and empty calories? I know, by eating a normal diet in moderation. You should try it, you'd find it very easy and relaxing - the lack of stressing about food groups may even prolong your life

If the Ooooh Kaaaay! is in response to the latest update from Hod, I think I'm adding one of my own
bonkers.

I'm not sure if it cures all ills but isn't it supposed to be good for wounds?

Also top honey fact of the day, Bez from the Happy Monday's is now a beekeeper (apiarist?) on a rooftop in Manchester.

Hodds you are a menace. I thought you'd flounced off and left us to our type 2 diabetes etc.

Now you're telling jokes. Wine o'clock?! Snort.

I'm not sure if it cures all ills but isn't it supposed to be good for wounds?

It is indeedy, it has great antibacterial properties! Great for skin.

Absolutely fine and delicious. Tell your husband to live a little!

Honey is fine. We all have a teaspoon of local honey every day in some form as a natural hay fever remedy.

It works extraordinarily well...until we go somewhere non-local! 🤣🤣🤣

I think I read that honey bears have the worst teeth/cavities due to all the honey they eat

Or they don't visit the dentist enough...

Rodeo I couldn't agree more. I have a similar story - I spent many miserable years yo yo dieting, constantly thinking about what I was going to eat or how I was going to manage not to eat, counting down the time until I was 'allowed' to eat, continually mentally totting up calories. It was fucking miserable.
And then one day, I just thought 'sod this', threw away my scales, bought a bike and have never looked back. I have realised that my appetite naturally regulates itself. I have times when I feel like eating stodge so I do and then I naturally have a period of fancying healthier food. I am a community nurse and use my bike for getting to work and home visits and probably average about 70 miles a week.
I hardly ever weigh myself but did so today out of curiosity on the back of this thread and my BMI is 20.1.
And as for our 'chubby children', don't be so fucking rude. My oldest child is actually underweight and the other 2 are at the lower end of a healthy BMI so stick your lazy assumptions where the sun don't shine.
As I said, I do actually eat fairly healthily and so do the DC, I just don't spend hours stressing about whether everything we eat has the right balance of protein and fat or how many grams of salt there are in a Christmas dinner.
Nobody is saying that it's ok to feed DC a diet of KFC buckets and Oreos but there is a sensible middle ground between that and orthorexia.

I think I read that honey bears have the worst teeth/cavities due to all the honey they eat

Pfft! Tell that to Pooh Bear!

If Wholemeal seedy bread, Sunflower margarine and honey, you can feel pretty smug about the nutritional value, I reckon.

A bunfight over honey - a hunny-bunny-fight?

AwaywiththePixies27 I think you need to RTFT. Now brace yourself, bad news, Winne The Pooh is dead

Surely all that matters is how much - or how little - crap is consumed overall? And I can't believe anyone doesn't actually know what constitutes crap in this day and age.

I'd like to know more about the "foreign" DH's eating habits. A lot of countries still get it right for the moment.

Well this has inspired me to go and buy some honey as my children have never tried it (thanks to the botulism scaremongering, I've been too paranoid).
I would love it if my DS ate toast with honey rather than chocolate wheetos . I might even try to be a good mother and put it in my DD's porridge instead of her usual white sugar

Can we have a link to the 70% of over 35s are obese/ overweight comment please.

I'm sorry, Pixies it came as a shock to us all. It was something to do with a poor diet

Unrelatedly, but in Bear news, Michael Bond, creator of Paddington and his marmalade sarnies, has died.

I have a big slab of bread with Winnie the Pooh-like amounts of honey on the regular. I give it to my child too. Please don't call the social. He's really thin! malnourished I expect.

The information about how many Brits are overweight and obese is here on the NHS site

"In England, 24.8% of adults are obese and 61.7% are either overweight or obese"

Bond was 91 - although no reports to say if the sugary breakfast preserve of choice contributed to his long life or, indeed, his death.

That's enough to make other countries' eating habits a matter of interest in itself then.