To ask if you decided not to vaccinate your children

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Do you regret it? Did they catch any of the diseases that they could have been vaccinated for and what was the outcome?

And anyone who did get their children vaccinated - did they catch any of the diseases anyway? And do you regret vaccinating for any reason?

This isn't intended to start a debate for or against vaccination generally as that's been done many times, I'm more just interested in your personal experiences if you'd be willing to share them. Thank you.

But so many assume this is a personal choice thing and no one else is affected. And make their decision with this flawed idea.

Petal: "Clalpolly And one of the risks of vaccinations is death too."

Clalpolly: "Petal - prove it."

Sorry Petal x-post

Most amusing reason I've heard for not having baby vaccinated was "I know everyone they come into contact with" lollll.

Death from vaccination vs death from road traffic accident. Prove they are the same and I will consider your point as valid.
Tell me I should keep my daughter locked away from traffic and not vaccinate her as a responsible caring parent and I will take you seriously.

Clalpolly

No they don't. They make their decision having done quite a lot of reading around the subject - you don't have to look far for the concept of herd immunity to pop up.

The same degree of risk, that is.

Reading what?

"Death from vaccination vs death from road traffic accident. Prove they are the same and I will consider your point as valid."

No. You know that I have never said the risk is the same; I never will because it's untrue - you cannot (as we keep saying) liken the two things... I said there was a risk, you asked me to prove it, I did.

You make the own decisions regarding your children. If I told you to throw your daughter from a tall building would you? Your job as a parent is to risk assess on behalf of your daughter.

Clalpolly

Research articles, papers, pro vaccine groups, anti vaccine groups, NHS distributed material - herd immunity always pops up.

Your risk assessment is different to mine. And mine doesn't undermine herd immunity.

someone pointed out that there is a risk of death from vaccination. This is a pretty well known fact

It's also a well known fact that there is a risk of death from Calpol, but you don't see people campaigning against that, do you?
It's a miniscule risk.

AndTakeYourHorseWithYou

Some people still chose not to use calpol. You don't have people saying their behaviour is akin to someone who drinks and drives, do you? It's accepted that it's a parental choice to make.

You don't see people saying that you must give your children Calpol either.

Clalpolly

Yet you are unvaccinated yourself? Do you know think that undermines herd immunity?

I have MS. I can't get vaccinated.

• Do you not think that undermines herd immunity?

Because whether or not you give calpol only affects your child, not anyone elses.

But you also are currently undermining herd immunity by not being vaccinated. MS, or no MS, you are not vaccinated and therefore not contributing to herd immunity. Have you had any of your vaccines or did you just take a blanket approach to not having any?

AndTake, as others have pointed out, our own children are our primary concern. Most of us will not decide to do something solely for 'the greater good'.

Me and my brother had whooping cough when we were young. It was horrific. He was hospitalised. There's an awful lot of perfectly healthy people who've had the vaccs so kind of blows the anti vaxer thing away. Both my DC vaccinated and both fine. Do not regret it, thankful we gave them available

clalpolly just reading national ms site - studies show vaccs have no detrimental effect on ms. Where did you get your info?

No I'm too old for introduction of MMR. I had mumps as a child and rubella vaccine as a teenager. I asked about getting measles vaccine because there is no herd immunity in my area. I was told the risk of relapse was too great. I had my daughter fully vaccinated. I rely on herd immunity to keep me safe as do, e.g chemo patients. If some foolish person choice merchant undermines herd immunity further in my area I'm pretty angry about it.

Ms trust told me.

AndTake, as others have pointed out, our own children are our primary concern. Most of us will not decide to do something solely for 'the greater good

Well thats a shame for you and your children. Most of us prefer to be responsible members of society and give a shit about kids other than our own. No-one can make you do the same though, I guess.