To ask - Jeremy Corbyn - PM

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There's stuff about how he thinks he'll be PM in 6 months. How the GLASTO coverage is a BBC plot to "see a MARXIST in power" etc etc but how?
TM is hardly going to call another election and Labor are likely to keep her long enough to get through the crap that is Brexit.

Apologies for all those thinking in thick but I don't see how JC has any even inkling of getting it, let alone a discussion on how much swing he'd need

So many tory plants, so little time.

So, poverty, unsafe, unstable and unsuitable housing, people with no heating (because they can't afford to turn it on or don't have any) rather than power cuts. (Although we didn't have any heating in the 1970s, so the power cuts passed us by a bit except that we had to use candles.)

Families living on the brink of homelessness, children going hungry.

Which of those aren't happening in 2017?

Do you really believe the official unemployment figures pottered? Have you been to a rural town recently? Zero hours contracts, benefit sanctions, forcing people to benefit hop may show low figures, but there are hundreds of thousands of young people not in work, education or training schemes.

Older people without disabilities, who aren't vulnerably housed and don't need too much from the NHS may have been just about okay, although worry about the future generations is crippling.

of course I believe the unemployment figures...the question is, is Corbyn going to make these problems better without causing massive job losses?

Time and again what I see is that the problems are easy to state - I agree with all of you and Corbyn about some of the stated problems. I do not buy into the solutions he's offering though, badly implemented change can make all of these problems worse, not better.

Your heart can be in the right place and you can still be absolutely wrong about the solutions. This sums up his manifesto to me.

Food banks. Tens of thousands of excess deaths due to NHS cuts.

Terrorism stalking.

Russian bombers over Cornwall and in our IT systems

Staggering levels of personal debt.

Increasing government debt.

Your heart can be in the right place and you can still be absolutely wrong about the solutions. This sums up his manifesto to me. yes me too

Education budgets cut to the bone.

Lol at 'tory plants'

Stalking inflation.

Housing crisis of epic proportion. With no plan.

Cut adrift in a dangerous world. With no plan.

No one is saying they are not happening now

But the levels of poverty that we are talking about in today's society wasn't seen in the same way

Now we see that as poverty now it's spoken about in the 70's for many it was just the norm it's wasn't shocking or terrible it's how many lived

We didn't have central heating, lived in high rise when I was young (it was horrible then) gas and electric seemed to be off often (though that was also to do with power cuts) hand me down clothes, a few trips to the coast for our holidays but I was far from the poorest I wouldn't consider us poor I knew many poorer. My mum was a single mum far tougher than I have experienced being a single mum she didn't have opportunities open to her to study or support with childcare, tax credits

Things need to improve for the poorest in our society but comparing to the 70's is just ridiculous

Enthu

How patronising

Here you go the world's tiniest volin. Look hard you might find it

Patronising

What becuase I experienced the 70's and saw grinding poverty that wasn't even registered as poverty then

And you assume no one else did and therefore you are speaking from a position of knowledge and authority

Yes patronising.

Also you are aware poverty is relative right? Or shall we compare to the 1930s or 1890s

Now we see that as poverty now it's spoken about in the 70's for many it was just the norm it's wasn't shocking or terrible it's how many lived

YY.
I was only little in the 70s but remember frozen condensation on the inside of the windows, no heating, candles, padding out food with breadcrumbs, constantly battling mould inside the house, no car etc etc - it was the norm. We weren't poor or in poverty, it was how everyone I knew lived.

It's wrong though that in 2017 Britain, people are still living like this, I agree.

As for the world's tiniest violin, that's the sort of dismissive nonsense that I have learned to expect from Jezsus fans who do a good line in virtue signalling but little else.

Income inequality has grown.

Yes I am aware it's relative as you will have noted in previous post if you read it

My responses are to Christina's remark the 70's weren't all bad tbh

I think you will find for many it really was shite with little hope and very very little help

I don't think enthu is being patronising, but it's absolutely not true to say that there aren't people living in grinding poverty in the UK today.

They may have a mobile phone, but if bringing up a family in a one room B & B (and being moved to another one every few months) isn't poverty in the 5th wealthiest country in the world, I honestly don't know what is.

Speaking of terrible 60s and 70s social housing, have you read about the slums that existed before?

Or was everyone in a clean little thatched roof cottage?

They may have a mobile phone, but if bringing up a family in a one room B & B (and being moved to another one every few months) isn't poverty in the 5th wealthiest country in the world, I honestly don't know what is.

Exactly.

"I think you will find for many it really was shite with little hope and very very little help,"

and what's different today?