To fear of a deliberate repeat attack on a tower block?

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I know it's not good living in fear and that anything can happen at any time, but honestly, look at how quickly the building went up in flames and look at how much chaos it has caused. I don't know what the solution is, to strip all big tower blocks that have flammable cladding? This was an atrocity on a huge scale and a terrorists wet dream. It just seems so easy and obvious and I would be so scared living in a building like this. I know it's not good to feel like that and it's what the terrorists want but I'm just watching the grief and frustration in the families eyes of dead or lost relatives and I'm just so upset and sad for them. Sorry this is has turned into a bit of a ramble really.

Tbh when i woke up the other morning and saw the news my initial sick feeling was that it was terrorist attack.

I guess that is just the horrendous world.we are living in

I think it is an atrocity - it's a culpable lack of concern for those tower block occupiers by councils, contractors and by governments.

OP, DH and I were talking about exactly this. I have heard a theory that the lorry attacks in Nice and Berlin "inspired" by the lorry driver who passed out and drove into the bus queue in Glasgow.

OP exactly the same thought crossed my mind yesterday. People 'get ideas' don't they?

I agree with you OP, a very scary thought.

Especially as an article in the Daily Mail had pictures/addresses of other tall blocks with the same cladding. It is possible that this could result in a copy.

Really, this was a total fluke, it wouldn't happen at some random tower block chosen by a terrorist.

So many contributing factors, even the weather, hot and windy, played a significant part. Terrorists can't replicate that

I am hoping very very much that none of the residents in any of the other similar blocks have one of those faulty tumble dryers that are on the 18 month waiting list for repair because that would be as bad as a deliberate arson attack.

DH and I were discussing the same thing this morning. It's a scary prospect.

I had similar thoughts as well OP and i'm 4000 miles away.

I thought exactly the same. The media needs to dampen down the reporting a little, they're practically giving a how to list to any potential terrorists who now know there are buildings housing hundreds of people clad in flammable material with 1 exit, no fire alarm and no sprinkler system !!

All of these blocks need security services placed by them until this is remedied.

Not obtuse. OP's OP wasn't clear. She has since clarified.

not necessarily about government austerity, maybe, may be companies that think they can quote lower prices and cut corners to get a contract, maybe councils prioritising the wrong things. (ours is building new stuff to replace things that seem to be working ok and trying to cut other things at the same time) maybe someone not giving a shit about the consequyences as they will not happen.

most tower blocks are compartmentalised to contain a fire in one flat with maybe smake heat damage to the adjacent ones.

the local towerblocks have been clad in rock wool and some other sort of cladding that they claim chars but does not burn. two of them have sprinklers. they definitely have a working alarm we can hear it from here.

our block of flats are not that compartmentalised the neighbours fag smoke comes through, there used to be weed smells coming up the air vents. small amounts of water run right through the floor onto the ceiling of the flat below.

but yes a copy cat attack is always possible. it has happened bfore with other crimes.

YANBU OP

Nobody is saying that this dreadful fire was due to an "attack" terrorist or otherwise, but I think what the OP is saying is that they are fearful of a copycat attack on another tower block.

In light of all the dreadful attacks that have occurred in barely the last month, I remarked to my husband that I'd be fearful of terrorists targeting hospital or schools next or even people in their own homes.

We live in a large complex of modern flats and I expressed the fear of something happening here, but more in the sense of somebody getting inside the building and causing chaos.

I understand where the OP is coming from when they say that something like the tower block fire is a "terrorist's wet dream"

I don't think you're being U here at all tbh. Especially - as has already been said - news networks have published lists of buildings with the same cladding.

However, I would hope that people living in those buildings would forgo advice to stay in and get themselves out as soon as they were aware there was a fire anywhere in the building, knowing now there is a risk of flammable cladding and a chance fire could spread externally. Advice to get out if safe or to stay put and await rescue if not safe is always the best advice, when a fire is spreading internally in a building. As we've seen with Grenfell, that fire appears to have spread externally and consumed the tower from the outside in. So advice to stay inside (in that scenario) was not great.

Also, I think it's worth noting there is a story circulating about a woman who flooded her entire bathroom and kept her, her boyfriend, and her daughter, in a damp flooded bathroom. She believes it saved their lives.
It's certainly what I would do if I was ever trapped in a burning building.

I thought the same, it is a terrorists wet dream (which isn't a disgusting thing to say and you shouldn't be ashamed of yourself).

I live in a high rise. I don't feel scared. There have been 3 significant fires within the last decade and they were contained within the flat due to whatever amazing measures they have taken to fire proof the building.

OP, interesting that you are more afraid of terrorists than the government in this context.

After all it wasn't terrorists that were responsible for what will be over a hundred deaths but the Tories and a Tory led council.

The point is it would be an easy target.

Austerity in this country was inflicted by our government on the poorest and most vulnerable. It didnt touch the rich. They just got richer in that period of time.

The safety concerns in this tower block were ignored. Precisely because they were poor. Theresa May didnt even meet or speak to the residents on her first visit. This categorically would not have happened if the people living there were rich and affluent.

The tory government MUST be held to account.

I understand exactly what you mean OP. I agree, yes Grenfell wasn't deliberate as far as we can tell but sick people get ideas and there are a lot of buildings in that fucking atrocious cladding. Makes for an easy target for a psycho to try something

These people have been failed by successive governments. Safety concerns were first raised in the nineties when the Labour government was in power. They should all hang their heads in shame.

I think terrorists already know that fire = death

Agreeing with user at 19:41. No aspiring terrorist arsonist could hope to replicate the chain of events that lead to this fire.

And, not to mention, the sheer number of Muslim families who lived in that block and similar blocks all over London.

In 2014 the tory housing minister decided that including sprinklers in hpuse building was bad for business

It is sickening how tories have been all about increasing the wealth of the wealthy and letting the poor deal with the crap.