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The homeless fire victims

92 replies

Charlie97 · 16/06/2017 18:59

Would it be appropriate to go there Sunday morning and bring 3 people back to my home for the day?

I haven't room to put them up (or I would).

But I could offer breakfast, lunch and dinner, a decent bath/shower. A rest in a comfy home and a change of scenery?

Is this appropriate?

I could do this for a few weekends.

OP posts:
sonjadog · 16/06/2017 22:08

It´s a nice idea, but I really think you´d be better approaching official channels and asking them what sort of practical help would be needed. Although your heart is in the right place, you might find that people would find your offer condescending and possibly even insulting if you just turn up on the doorstep.

Sophiealice95 · 16/06/2017 22:11

I think that is a lovely thing to do OP good on you my dear . We all need to do our bit and pull together

user1489434024 · 16/06/2017 22:16

I also think it's a lovely idea and you should go for it x I would too if I could. But live far away x

IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday · 16/06/2017 22:23

No please don't ask to do this. These people are traumatised and may be bereaved, they don't want to be going off to some strangers house.

Just go and volunteer, I'm sure you would be made very welcome. Flowers

GhostPower · 16/06/2017 22:38

I've just seen a video of someone that went to help yesterday and according to her she never saw or met one single victim, only other volunteers. She also claims they all died but the gov'nt is hiding this figure from the public

sherazade · 16/06/2017 22:45

After the terror incident in Manchester there was a poem going round about ' a cup of tea / brew/ warm couch ' on social media where people were offering their living rooms and a hot drink to anyone affected. Why is this so different ?

GhostPower · 16/06/2017 22:46

But I don't think that's the case. Clearly there are victims.

Littledrummergirl · 16/06/2017 23:01

Lobby for improved help in mental health services and for GPs. So many people have seen, heard and done/not done things that are likely to haunt them for the rest of their lives. They will need support for years to come.

We still talk about the baby who survived Titanic. In 80yrs will reporter's still being trying to talk to the baby that was thrown by a desperate parent?

Yes the short term immediate help is needed, someone needs to start focusing on what happens next to people who have suffered so much.

Stressalot42 · 17/06/2017 02:56

High alert , read the BBC website? They stormed council offices as many don't have homes and are sleeping wherever in makeshift places

Littlelondoner · 17/06/2017 03:23

This is a sweet idea ... but even with out being through a horiffic traumatic event...the idea of small talk with strangers over sunday lunch is my idea of nightmare...throw into the mix rescent events would be the last thing I would want.

Also I have seen people turn down offers of rooms a little further away as they are still clinging to the hope that friends and family etc are some how mislaid so want to be close to the hospitals etc. Just incase.

Also depending on where you live. I have seen a really sad video of a man scared to go inside a hotel offering a free room as he is so traumatised he didnt want to go up any stairs or into a building he doesnt know.

All considerations to be made.

From what i can gather the ammount if donations is immense but they are struggling to get them to the right people as it os all so disorganised. So I am sure your commendable charitible nature could be used better else where Grin

BigYellowJumper · 17/06/2017 03:30

I think a lot of people here have a lot more faith in "official channels" than I currently do.

OP, why not go down to London, speak to some people who are already there helping (church/mosque leaders etc.) and see what can be done? Maybe they need money, maybe they need volunteers to sort through stuff, maybe they need someone to babysit kids while adults go to work. It's hard to know what is necessary because the situation seems very confused and like no-one is really in charge right now.

I have volunteered with the long-term homeless and the main thing they said helped was having someone make them a cup of tea and talk to them like a human being.

Obviously this is a very different situation, but I don't like how people are assuming what the people involved would want.

kateandme · 17/06/2017 03:50

i think this is a lovely idea.are there charities to get in touch with down there so they could point you in the right direction.they will have been maybe too raw the day after wanting to stay close (survivors search etc) but now it might be just the peace people need.becasue ovee next few day or however long this takes they mmight start to get cabin fever being in that space.
if you can go for it.
can you imagine a group or family of three that could just breaaaathe for the day at yours....bliss.
it wont work for some but if I was in this situation and someone offered me a day of healing somewhere id be so grateful.

WellThisIsShit · 17/06/2017 04:07

Why not volunteer your time on Sunday instead?

By phone up a few of the local charities and community efforts and offering your time for whatever needs doing.

I don't think just turning up & milling around would be very helpful as it would just add to the chaos and disorganization which seems to be emerging as a big issue.

Taking someone for the day might be light relief for them, or a horrible strain which involves making small talk and all the social expectations of being a guest in a strangers home. And what happens at the end of the day when your hospitality comes to an end and they have to go back?

As others have said, kind thought but possibly not the most helpful thing to be doing right now.

TheAntiBoop · 17/06/2017 07:21

Big Yellow - JamParty has linked to two Facebook pages and a website that has been set up specifically to coordinate matters. Rather than turning up it would be better to check these links to see what is needed and where's ather than just turn up.

lapetitesiren · 17/06/2017 07:50

It's a lovely idea and might be really beneficial for someone. Perhaps a family who are being put up in a hotel would find this a welcome change. What is to lose by offering - you may or may not find takers and if there are none this week you can use the trip to let organisers/ church groups know you can do it in the future. It's the sort of help that may sadly be needed for a long time.

Catminion · 17/06/2017 08:04

OP I live locally and while you have the best of intentions I really wouldn't. I think people need to stay with their own family and friends and their own support networks. They are being looked after albeit by volunteers on the whole. I am sorry but being taken out for the day to sit in someone's nice house is not what they need right now.

There are loads of volunteers (many with little to do) and loads of sight seers coming to gawk as well.

MagentaRose72 · 17/06/2017 09:33

It's very kind of you OP. But, would you be doing this for them, or to make you feel better? Do you not think that they will make comparisons about what they've lost? It might be too painful to see your lovely home OP when they have lost everything. It probably would be kinder to spend the money you'd have spent on food for them at your house and give it to the charities that could use it to provide grief and trauma counselling.
Cash is going to be needed long term to, to resettle the victims. I read with sadness about what OP above said about a man too scared to go into a building he didn't know. This may apply to a lot of people. I think the government are downplaying the number of deaths and that there are not any more survivors than we've seen on the TV. I have not seen any evidence or photos to suggest that there are 100's of people living in temporary accomodation. Sadly I have not even see 100's of survivors and I think that the people who stormed the town hall were local people, not all survivors. I'm sure the survivors will be still in shock and some may be too traumatised to even speak. I know if it were me, I'd want to be among my own people on familiar ground, not with strangers, if that makes sense. But your kind heart can be channelled into other ways of help, I'm sure OP.

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