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The homeless fire victims

92 replies

Charlie97 · 16/06/2017 18:59

Would it be appropriate to go there Sunday morning and bring 3 people back to my home for the day?

I haven't room to put them up (or I would).

But I could offer breakfast, lunch and dinner, a decent bath/shower. A rest in a comfy home and a change of scenery?

Is this appropriate?

I could do this for a few weekends.

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WannaBe · 16/06/2017 19:18

No not appropriate. You would be better off volunteering through the proper channels.

Firstly, how will you choose who goes and who stays? Just rocking up and offering a meal at home for the first three volunteers has the potential to cause carnage and disorganisation.

Secondly, there are safeguarding procedures to follow on both sides. A stranger wandering into a place full of currently homeless could quite literally be anyone. They have no idea of knowing who you are and whether you could be any kind of risk to them. And conversely you have no idea of knowing who they are and whether you or your family might be putting yourselves at risk.

Wishforsnow · 16/06/2017 19:19

I have really tried not to post on any of these threads as I have a relative that lives in Grenfell. She is so annoyed but gets that people are helping and not everyone is in her position. But, she is so embarrassed as she is not poor. She bought her flat there and is not a refugee or anything. So many of the papers are depicting what the residents are like. She was so proud to buy in West London as it is hard to. Please don't feel she needs to be scooped up and taken in.

Aeroflotgirl · 16/06/2017 19:20

Or offer food and clothes donations. Gosh some people are not very nice on here, ok op mabey not a good idea, your heart is in the right place.

WannaBe · 16/06/2017 19:27

People need to be realistic. There are multiple charities who are organising help for a number of the people affected by this tragedy. I have absolutely no doubt that the OP's heart is in the right place but there are other far more effective ways to offer help.

Plus if I'm honest, talk of taking people home for dinner and going to "the rescue centres" is thoroughly degrading to people many of whom were not poor disenfranchised refugees as the papers would have us believe, but are ordinary families who will need time to get their lives back on track. but being treated like and referred to as rescues is not the way to go about it.

DeadGood · 16/06/2017 19:28

kaytee they may be able to buy in bulk but a sack of porridge oats is no good to a person in a hotel room, is it?

Personally I agree with you, that it's better to go through organised channels, but the OP has asked the question, people are shooting her down, and I'm interested in what their reasoning is.

As for the "you're making this all about you" commenter - no the OP isn't contradicting herself, and what an odd thing to say; and the "ummmmmm why can you only have them on a Sundays" comment is just beyond belief

Aeroflotgirl · 16/06/2017 19:29

No wannabe but they have just lost their home. What do you call the centres then!

DeadGood · 16/06/2017 19:29

wannabe excellent post

DeadGood · 16/06/2017 19:31

wannabe I meant your post at 19.18. The one from 19.27 is a bit heavy handed towards the end

kaytee87 · 16/06/2017 19:32

I've explained my reasoning over a couple of posts. I agree there's been some nasty comments on this thread, no need really, op hasn't done anything wrong.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 16/06/2017 19:32

Bit abrupt. Bubbles.
Lovely and kind thought op. I don't think any help will be turned away at a time like this.

Wishforsnow · 16/06/2017 19:35

aeroflotgirl She said there aren't many people in the centres that she is aware of. Many have sadly died or are in hospital so don't need there. Some do need help but she's at my Aunts. I can't be sure if that's the case but that's what she said only a couple of hours ago

MagentaRose72 · 16/06/2017 19:35

Please sign this petition : goo.gl/J1z4Ez
This fire should not have ripped through this tower block in these days of health and safety. I'm heartbroken to see the disregard for our fellow humans by this callous government we have. Money is more important to them than basic human rights and action needs to be taken, now, before anyone else suffers. The hundreds of deaths it caused were preventable. The conservative party have shown that they have no respect for the poor, the needy and the vulnerable and would love to hush this up. Please don't let them do that. x #grenfelltower #grenfellfirevictims #londonfire #toriesout #towerblocks

ThanksMsMay · 16/06/2017 19:35

You don't have to be poor to have nothing wishforsnow. Insurance might not happen immediately. And just because you can afford a mortgage doesn't meant you can afford a month in a hotel when your house is suddenly engulfed in flames. I think it's because this is so relatable people want to help.

Wishforsnow · 16/06/2017 19:38

Areo ignore my post you weren't even referring to mine. Bad week. Sorry.

seedsofchange · 16/06/2017 19:38

Maybe because this Sunday is The Big Get Together Day/ Big Lunch Day? and a commemoration of Jo Cox? Lots of community stuff going on across the UK, and the World.

user1497480444 · 16/06/2017 19:39

No, not helpful. there is no lack of good will, donations, volunteers, what is lacking is coordination and authority.

What you are suggesting would further add to the piecemeal nature and confusion.

I agree, find somebody doing something helpful and organised, and donate time, money or donations there.

Apart from anything else, what would you do in a strangers house for hours and hours, make polite conversation? play monopoly? Offer to help with the housework? It would likely be embarrassing and boring.

Everyone wants to help, but this is not the right way to go about it.

Aeroflotgirl · 16/06/2017 19:40

I am sure that there are thete are those on the lower floors who managed to escape or were not occupying their flat at the time.

brasty · 16/06/2017 19:42

Get in contact with charity helping out and offer. If no one is interested, nothing lost

reuset · 16/06/2017 19:44

What user 1497 said.

It's kind of you to want to help, though

Aeroflotgirl · 16/06/2017 19:44

That's ok Wish it was wannabe* How is your relative?

Wishforsnow · 16/06/2017 19:48

Thanks for asking Aero she's fine. A bit shell shocked as you can imagine but drinking wine this evening, taking some time off work and thanking her lucky stars. Really worried about her neighbours but she only knew so many by face not friends

Beeziekn33ze · 16/06/2017 19:51

The Red Cross, as ever around the world, is involved. Their workers are experienced and well organised. There is a way of sending money donations to the Red Cross to be used specifically for U.K. emergencies. I'll check details.
Also this weekend there are events to commemorate Jo Cox, opportunities to join your local community and get involved in improving facilities in many ways.

Charlie97 · 16/06/2017 19:51

*Would it be appropriate to go there Sunday morning and bring 3 people back to my home for the day?I haven't room to put them up (or I would).

You are not only contradicting yourself but making it all about you, not the*

I honestly don't know what the fuck you are talking about!??

How am I making this about me????????

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Charlie97 · 16/06/2017 19:52

Or contradicting myself????

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GertrudeBelle · 16/06/2017 19:55

OP this place is horrible sometimes.

Whatever the practical feasibility of what you have suggested it was a very nice thought. And I didn't think your OP was contradictory at all.

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