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Airbnb host leaving malicious review because she disapproves of the paper DH reads...

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BinDiesel · 13/06/2017 00:55

NC for this for obvious reasons.

Went to stay at an Airbnb last week. All fine, no problems we were made aware of while we were there. It was a quiet family holiday with children. So no music played, no visitors, no excessive noise or drunkenness etc.

We left a really positive review despite a few niggling concerns like finding a pair of (dirty) boy's underpants left by the previous guests as we thought it was a genuine oversight and didn't want to be petty.

The day after we left we received an absolutely inexplicable review from the owner which basically implied that we had trashed her house and behaved appallingly while staying. She said she would need to do an entire day's cleaning to get her house back in order and that we'd broken all her house rules. In her private feedback she admits that actually we overlooked one dirty pan, left a small ketchup mark on a sheet (which she would have changed anyway) and one or two other minor housekeeping issues. It wasn't ideal, but relatively reasonable after almost a week of three small children. She also said we had broken all her house rules, which included no smoking in the house and no loud music, which we categorically didn't do. She also made some entirely false claims regarding things which we either cleaned thoroughly or never used in the first place being left filthy.

If she'd marked us down a bit for cleaning and left a review accurately reflecting this I would have apologised and accepted it. But instead she's left a malicious and entirely exaggerated review and sent us really unprofessional private feedback which is personally insulting and borderline abusive.

We've contacted Airbnb who've been no help even though they can see from the private feedback that her public review is inaccurate, I've deleted my account with them because they were so useless.

We were absolutely gobsmacked and couldn't understand why she had done this. It just literally came out of nowhere. So, I've done a bit of digging about her today. We knew she was a big Labour supporter, as her house was covered in billboards for them. But I've done some digging today and discovered that she is obsessively opposed to any media which she deems 'right wing', even going as far as buying up all the 'social pornography' (so the Mail, Sun, Express etc) on sale locally and burning them so that she can rescue other people from being polluted by it. She also campaigns to have it banned. And guess what paper DH reads and left in her recycling? Yep. That's right. The Sun.

It's the only possible reason we can think of for her going so psycho on us. She's also probably massively wide of the mark in whatever she thinks that means, as DH is a Marxist Irish Republican. But he also really likes football and thinks The Sun does the best reporting on it by far, so he buys it, reads the back pages and then recycles it away without ever reading the rest.

That's absolutely immaterial anyway, because she simply shouldn't be judging and abusing guests based on what they choose to read anyway unless she is prepared to be upfront about this and specify beforehand that she doesn't want them on her property.

I'm so furious she's got away with this scot free and made money in the process. Given that in her private feedback she basically admits her review isn't accurate WIBU to try to take this further? Would I have any success with a civil claim? I'm tempted just to sign her up for millions of Sun and Daily Mail promotions, but I'd like to do this through the proper channels instead and she'd just use them to get money off the ones she burns.

So WIBU to follow this up? Any suggestions how I might do it?

OP posts:
User843022 · 13/06/2017 10:29

'It is yeah, that's why so many of us boycott it '

Well that's great. Just let others make their own choices unless you're Kim Jong un?

pigeondujour · 13/06/2017 10:33

Who's not being 'let' make their own choices?! Grin

AndNowItIsSeven · 13/06/2017 10:35

you wouldn't step foot over any property I owned with a copy of the Sun op.
And your dh reads it because of the quality football reporting!
My best friends brother died at Hillsborough, your dh should educate himself/get some principals.

pigeondujour · 13/06/2017 10:38

Oh but he is principled. He's a Marxist Grin

velvetcandy · 13/06/2017 10:40

Can't believe people actually read the sun still?

BigYellowJumper · 13/06/2017 10:41

pigeondujour It is just annoying when people go on and on about their holier than thou choices when they themselves presumably do things that are equally or indeed far more damaging.

Shite as the Sun were about Hillsborough, every time we fly, or drive a car, or buy unethically produced goods, we do far more real damage to the world, and yet we so often give ourselves a pass for those things. That's a sad fact of life.

Hoppinggreen · 13/06/2017 10:43

Ok, to come back to the actual subject of the thread.
I think OP that it would be a good idea for you to forget the whole newspaper thing and not worry too much about WHY the host left a bad review - talking about burning papers etc makes you smd a bit unhinged ( even if it is true)
If the review is factually incorrect then look at what action you can take

FreeNiki · 13/06/2017 10:45

Ketchup on a sheet isnt vile but it is a bit gross. What were they doing eating food that required ketchup in bed?

pigeondujour · 13/06/2017 10:55

Shite as the Sun were about Hillsborough aye and they've been fucking golden since then eh. Think I'll take 'annoying', 'drives a car when necessary' and 'occasionally buys a bar of chocolate with palm oil in it' over, to name a few, 'massively racist, misogynistic, classist, barefacedly untruthful to the point of extreme irresponsibleness, absolutely loathing the success of black men making big money from being both organically talented and hardworking at the football they're apparently so great at writing about when we live in the age of limitless and free alternative writing about football and everything else'.

kali110 · 13/06/2017 10:56

Really good to see how the op's thread has been hijacked Hmm
She didn't ask for opinions on dhs reading materials Confused
I think you're completely wrong about it being about a newspaper, completely (i'm hoping, though by this thread you could be right Hmm)
You may have left some things she wasn't happy about.
She may have overreacted.
You've deleted your account now so i'd just move on.

BigYellowJumper · 13/06/2017 11:00

pigeondujour yes, so enjoy destroying the rain forest every time you eat that chocolate,or peanut butter, or everything else that has palm oil, something that has an actual impact on the physical world.

Cromwell1536 · 13/06/2017 11:00

Mix, AirBnB attracts criticism (possibly justified, possibly not) that it has morphed wildly from its stated original purpose of opening up the world to likeminded people, enabling travellers to stay in a host's own property and 'experience' a locale in a 'more authentic' way than staying in a hotel or a conventional rental. People now buy (or even rent) properties for the purpose of renting it out via AirBnB. I know of three people in my narrow acquaintance who do this - they're breaking their mortgage and rental agreements, and they're probably not insured properly. They don't mind and neither, it seems, do their guests. They have good properties and they provide a good level of service. But some people (I'm not sure how true this is) believe that it's a further source of pressure on the housing market in popular and expensive cities.

I'm comfortable with fair, legal, taxed profit, thanks - I have made profits from renting property for the last 20 years.

pigeondujour · 13/06/2017 11:04

yes, so enjoy destroying the rain forest every time you eat that chocolate,or peanut butter, or everything else that has palm oil, something that has an actual impact on the physical world.

...what do you think it was happened at Hillsborough?

And I'm pretty ok with being less concerned about monkeys in the rainforest than I am about someone being paid thousands to compare a Nigerian lad to those monkeys. Smile

kali110 · 13/06/2017 11:05

Which is why so mAny animals will end up extinct, bevause nobody cares Confused

BigYellowJumper · 13/06/2017 11:05

People also depend on the rainforest to live, in fact.

BigYellowJumper · 13/06/2017 11:06

kali but at least she doesn't buy the Sun. So she can destroy the entire rainforest single handedly and she'd be golden.

pigeondujour · 13/06/2017 11:07

How on earth could I destroy the whole rainforest singlehandedly? Odd thing to say.

(As an aside, I'm not the one buying print newspaper.)

SaucyJack · 13/06/2017 11:13

A blob of ketchup on a sheet that's going straight in the washing machine regardless is "vile"?!

Thanks for reminding me why I love camping so much.

MrsHathaway · 13/06/2017 11:14

Tbh I think eating in bed is vile so food stains on bedclothes would annoy me.

But that's why I'm not a landlord/hotelier/host!

Roomster101 · 13/06/2017 11:18

Ketchup on a bedsheet is hardly up there with the disgusting things (i.e. body excretions) that you could get on a spreadsheet. I would certainly attempt to wash it off but the fact OP didn't doesn't justify a terrible review.

I've never used AirBNB and certainly wouldn't in the future if hosts are allowed to make libellous comments with no comeback.

Tollygunge · 13/06/2017 11:18

has a booking arrange for a copy of the sun, daily mail, mirror, torygraph to be delivered. Then sit back and smile! Or see if she writes a shitty review about those visitors! She sounds like an arse!

Tollygunge · 13/06/2017 11:18

Above- a minor point- The Mirror is not in the same league as the above.

TabascoToastie · 13/06/2017 11:39

It's weird how people are acting like forgetting to wash a single pan is appalling, when clearly it's outrage over choice of reading material.

The owner sounds like a total psycho. Not worth legal action at all but if possible definitely try to re-activate account and leave response to her feedback. Prospective hostees need to know this - I certainly wouldn't want to stay at that woman's home and I'm pretty far left wing.

Boredbeforeievenbegan · 13/06/2017 11:42

"You need to get out more"

With people who think it's ok to call a footballer with Nigerian background a monkey I presume? Grin

Dazoo · 13/06/2017 11:42

She sounds bonkers and I wouldn't worry too much about it. I have used Airbnb quite a bit and had some good ones and some bad ones (friend got bedbugs in Cascais). My major grudge about Airbnb is that it is affecting some capital cities very negatively. Barcelona and Madrid central rents have rocketed because of these kind of rentals. To the person who was raving about the wonderful homes they'd stayed in... over half of the airbnb in capital cities are now company run rentals - buy to rents - that's why the apartments are so spectacular and are being let out, precisely because they aren't homes.