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Airbnb host leaving malicious review because she disapproves of the paper DH reads...

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BinDiesel · 13/06/2017 00:55

NC for this for obvious reasons.

Went to stay at an Airbnb last week. All fine, no problems we were made aware of while we were there. It was a quiet family holiday with children. So no music played, no visitors, no excessive noise or drunkenness etc.

We left a really positive review despite a few niggling concerns like finding a pair of (dirty) boy's underpants left by the previous guests as we thought it was a genuine oversight and didn't want to be petty.

The day after we left we received an absolutely inexplicable review from the owner which basically implied that we had trashed her house and behaved appallingly while staying. She said she would need to do an entire day's cleaning to get her house back in order and that we'd broken all her house rules. In her private feedback she admits that actually we overlooked one dirty pan, left a small ketchup mark on a sheet (which she would have changed anyway) and one or two other minor housekeeping issues. It wasn't ideal, but relatively reasonable after almost a week of three small children. She also said we had broken all her house rules, which included no smoking in the house and no loud music, which we categorically didn't do. She also made some entirely false claims regarding things which we either cleaned thoroughly or never used in the first place being left filthy.

If she'd marked us down a bit for cleaning and left a review accurately reflecting this I would have apologised and accepted it. But instead she's left a malicious and entirely exaggerated review and sent us really unprofessional private feedback which is personally insulting and borderline abusive.

We've contacted Airbnb who've been no help even though they can see from the private feedback that her public review is inaccurate, I've deleted my account with them because they were so useless.

We were absolutely gobsmacked and couldn't understand why she had done this. It just literally came out of nowhere. So, I've done a bit of digging about her today. We knew she was a big Labour supporter, as her house was covered in billboards for them. But I've done some digging today and discovered that she is obsessively opposed to any media which she deems 'right wing', even going as far as buying up all the 'social pornography' (so the Mail, Sun, Express etc) on sale locally and burning them so that she can rescue other people from being polluted by it. She also campaigns to have it banned. And guess what paper DH reads and left in her recycling? Yep. That's right. The Sun.

It's the only possible reason we can think of for her going so psycho on us. She's also probably massively wide of the mark in whatever she thinks that means, as DH is a Marxist Irish Republican. But he also really likes football and thinks The Sun does the best reporting on it by far, so he buys it, reads the back pages and then recycles it away without ever reading the rest.

That's absolutely immaterial anyway, because she simply shouldn't be judging and abusing guests based on what they choose to read anyway unless she is prepared to be upfront about this and specify beforehand that she doesn't want them on her property.

I'm so furious she's got away with this scot free and made money in the process. Given that in her private feedback she basically admits her review isn't accurate WIBU to try to take this further? Would I have any success with a civil claim? I'm tempted just to sign her up for millions of Sun and Daily Mail promotions, but I'd like to do this through the proper channels instead and she'd just use them to get money off the ones she burns.

So WIBU to follow this up? Any suggestions how I might do it?

OP posts:
KoalaDownUnder · 13/06/2017 09:32

cooldarkroom, that's exactly what I had hoped it would be like! Reconsidering now...

ExplodedCloud · 13/06/2017 09:32

This reads as if it's a chance to have a go at 'lefties' by a Sun reader dressed up as an AirBnB problem.
It's a very strange problem and response...

MrsHathaway · 13/06/2017 09:36

We recently tried an AirBnB somewhere there aren't many hotels. Got a whole house for two nights for £70, and the host had left us fresh bread, scones, butter and home made jam, as well as milk in the fridge, cereal/tea/coffee/sugar in the cupboard and logs by the fire. It was bliss. Family staying in the big hotel were quite envious of our facilities!

I do sometimes wonder if the owners get their friends to write reviews though.

I think this is unlikely: you have to have made a booking and paid through the site in order to leave a review so it's harder to fake than eg eBay which is crawling with fake reviews. You'd have to pay a lot of money unnecessarily to create the opportunities.

Zoflorabore · 13/06/2017 09:37

pigeon- don't think a lot of people realise what that paper did, I was only 11 but still remember the hurt and upset, front page news saying that Liverpool fans had stole from the dead Angry
So I'm sorry if people think it's an over reaction but a city never forgets.
Wouldn't use the sun to wipe my arse!

BigYellowJumper · 13/06/2017 09:39

pigeondujour unless every single thing you buy is 100% ethical, you really have no right to keep criticising the OP.

bruffian · 13/06/2017 09:40

I don't read the Sun. But I don;t judge those that do. I don't imagine that reading the Sun makes you a terrible person. There are lots of things that do make you a terrible person and what you read isn't one of them.

SwimmingInLemonade · 13/06/2017 09:41

I don't know anyone that would buy or read the Sun, genuinely shocked you'd admit to it.

You need to get out more Grin

Seriously, I can't stand this idea that it's somehow virtuous to only have friends who share your political ideologies. It just means we all end up living in our own little echo chambers and nobody ever changes their opinion about anything.

OP, the host sounds nuts. I know you've deleted your account now, but if you had any screenshots of her messages admitting the feedback was untrue, maybe you could use them in some way?

bruffian · 13/06/2017 09:42

Seriously, I can't stand this idea that it's somehow virtuous to only have friends who share your political ideologies. It just means we all end up living in our own little echo chambers and nobody ever changes their opinion about anything.

yes exactly. I think its very dangerous to live your life like this actually.

pigeondujour · 13/06/2017 09:45

unless every single thing you buy is 100% ethical, you really have no right to keep criticising the OP.

I have literally that exact right 🙋🏻

@Zoflorabore yeah, people don't realise or don't care. Some people still insist the Sun were right at the time!

bruffian · 13/06/2017 09:46

pigeon can say what she likes and has the right to do so.

But by the same token so do Sun readers.

bruffian · 13/06/2017 09:47

demanding that they don't makes you a fascist.

pigeondujour · 13/06/2017 09:49

Who demanded anyone not say anything? Except whoever it was just had 50p popped in them and told me I had 'no right' to criticise Sun readers. Even the Marxist ones Grin

DailyMailReadersAreThick · 13/06/2017 09:52

OP, you sound ridiculous.

You glossed over the cleaning you failed to do, internet stalked the host, concocted an elaborate conspiracy in your head where she made up a malicious review because your Marxist Republican (wtf?) husband reads The Sun, and then asked MN if you could pursue a civil claim against her.

What. The. Fuck.

bruffian · 13/06/2017 09:54

You deserve a good slagging if you read the Sun. Free speech works two ways.

oh the irony of this post

BigYellowJumper · 13/06/2017 09:56

pigeondujour sure, technically you have the right, but don't expect others to take you terribly seriously.

Mix56 · 13/06/2017 10:05

"Basically, the owners were renting out the properties as a full-time business (for which many people, possibly with justification, hate AirBnB)"
Why would you bother to rent your property if not to make a profit ?
Where I live I am obliged to declare my income. I am taxed on it.

pigeondujour · 13/06/2017 10:12

pigeondujour sure, technically you have the right, but don't expect others to take you terribly seriously.

Aye, same to you, reader of the Sun. (By the way - there is something of a difference between "you don't have the right" and "technically you do have the right")

WhatALoadOfOldBollocks · 13/06/2017 10:13

We've contacted Airbnb who've been no help even though they can see from the private feedback that her public review is inaccurate, I've deleted my account with them because they were so useless.

Bin, I agree that AirBnB has behaved unprofessionally for not dealing with the innacurate review, but how can you follow it up if you've deleted your account? Sorry, I've never used them so no idea how it all works.

BigYellowJumper · 13/06/2017 10:15

And same to you, probably buyer of palm oil and sweat shop produced clothing.

BeautyQueenFromMars · 13/06/2017 10:18

Ffs, a smear of ketchup on a sheet is not 'vile', and I am saying that as someone who gets grossed out by food in places it shouldn't be. If the sheet had been full of wee or other bodily excretions, that would have been vile.
Think some of you are conflating vile with unpleasant. Or you're very easily offended/disgusted.

User843022 · 13/06/2017 10:18

'And same to you, probably buyer of palm oil and sweat shop produced clothing'
This ^. Don't buy the Sun, that is your choice, nobody cares. To get so wound up with those that do though is rather silly when I'm sure you make choices others wouldn't. Try and live and let live? all that bitterness and bile must be very unpleasant.

Roomster101 · 13/06/2017 10:25

You could perhaps sue her for libel if you have proof that she was lying but if there was some truth in what she said it may be more difficult. You state that you categorically didn't smoke but do you smoke? If not you could probably prove she was lying about that.

pigeondujour · 13/06/2017 10:27

all that bitterness and bile must be very unpleasant.

It is yeah, that's why so many of us boycott it Smile

Roomster101 · 13/06/2017 10:27

Sorry, I see you said you don't smoke. I think that if you prove she lied about that people will realise that she probably lied about other things.

WhatALoadOfOldBollocks · 13/06/2017 10:29

Jesus! Only on Mumsnet can a thread about an unfair review on AirBnB turn into an assault on a person admitting they buy the Sun
I know! Confused I love MN but it's shit like this that makes it a laughing stock amongst some.

FFS people, the OP clearly said the host admits her bad review wasn't accurate, AirBnB didn't help, and it's understandable she's upset. I do, however, think OP is perhaps clutching at straws to be blaming the choice of newspaper.

So, if someone leaves a dreadful but innacurate review on AirBnB, what can be done about it? I'd like to know as I plan to use them on my travels and this thread has been an eye-opener.

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