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Trump leaks are better than Comey leaks: winning!

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TheClaws · 12/06/2017 12:29

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2948158-Is-justice-Comey-for-Trump

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Trump leaks are better than Comey leaks: winning!
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lionheart · 16/06/2017 18:27

Trump soon to speak at rally thing in Miami.

It's on CNN if anyone has the stomach for it.

cozietoesie · 16/06/2017 18:40

I haven't. Sorry.

GingerIvy · 16/06/2017 18:47

I honestly can't watch him either . It enrages me too much.

Besides, it's clear it's the same old speech. "I won bigly..."

CNN Politics‏Verified account @CNNPolitics 5m5 minutes ago
In Miami, President Donald Trump thanks Florida for supporting him during the presidential campaign snpy.tv/2sHvCAP

GingerIvy · 16/06/2017 18:55

BBC Breaking News‏Verified account @BBCBreaking 42s42 seconds ago
President Trump roll backs Obama administration's 'completely one-sided deal with Cuba' bbc.in/2ropUQr

GingerIvy · 16/06/2017 18:56

Preet Bharara‏Verified account @PreetBharara 13h13 hours ago
Americans should also exercise caution before accepting as true lies about firing of FBI Director & defamation of a war hero special counsel pic.twitter.com/KQUPpppcAI

GingerIvy · 16/06/2017 18:56

Kurt Eichenwald‏Verified account @kurteichenwald 2m2 minutes ago
As Trump slaps back down Cuba embargo, lets remember how he illegally violated it (complete with secret documents.) www.newsweek.com/2016/10/14/donald-trump-cuban-embargo-castro-violated-florida-504059.html

GingerIvy · 16/06/2017 19:01

FFS What fresh hell is this now?

Rick Klein‏Verified account @rickklein 4h4 hours ago
Rosenstein news -- Deputy AG acknowledges he may need to recuse himself from Russia probe - @ABC News abcnews.go.com/Politics/deputy-attorney-general-privately-acknowledges-recuse-russia-probe/story?id=48080253

AcrossthePond55 · 16/06/2017 19:03

I'd rather chew glass than hear his voice. I couldn't even watch any of the infamous circle jerk cabinet meeting. I had to wait and find a snarky article with the 'praise' in written form.

It kind of makes me mad at myself that I just can't listen to him. It's important to 'know thine enemy'. And sometimes I wonder if the sources I use (a lot of them snarky or sarcastic) may, at times, blunt the effect of his insanity in my mind.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/06/2017 19:09

There's speculation that rosenstein recusing himself might lead to mueller being forced to recuse himself as he then becomes a witness to the obstruction of justice to the obstruction of justice case. I think.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/06/2017 19:11

thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/the-administration/338138-opinion-if-rosenstein-recuses-himself-mueller-may-not?amp

OPINION: If Rod Rosenstein recuses himself, Robert Mueller may be next

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/06/2017 19:17

Two years today that trump announced he was running, one year today since jo cox was murdered. What a desperately broken world we find ourselves in

GingerIvy · 16/06/2017 19:19

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Trump’s personal lawyer hires his own lawyer to help deal with Russia probe ow.ly/JnR530cEDXW

TheNorthWestPawsage · 16/06/2017 19:20

Aargh! I lcannot bear it! Someone tell me when this 'Alice through the Looking Glass' story is over! It will end up (like someone said) with the White House janitor (as the only person left standing) being appointed Special Consel...

cozietoesie · 16/06/2017 19:21

I disagree with Turley.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 16/06/2017 19:21

And I'm so cross I can't spell anymore Angry

lionheart · 16/06/2017 19:21

I can't watch either--not even on mute. Had to take myself off to the garden to do some therapeutic weeding instead. Flowers

It must be skin-crawling to meet him in person.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/06/2017 19:28

Glimmers of hope?

Phil Mattingly @Phil_Mattingly

Bipartisan Govs letter to Senate leaders attacking AHCA, listing health care principles. They rep states of several on-the-fence R Senators

Trump leaks are better than Comey leaks: winning!
Trump leaks are better than Comey leaks: winning!
Trump leaks are better than Comey leaks: winning!
Lweji · 16/06/2017 19:35

So, if Trump tries to obstruct all special counsels or judges or investigators, he could never be prosecuted?

It doesn't make sense.

In fact, if Rosenstein was just a witness and that led to recusing himself, I don't think it should affect Mueller. Not unless Rosenstein was also accused of something and Mueller was a witness.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/06/2017 19:41

I think it might be because rosenstein himself obstructed justice by writing the letter recommending that comey should be fired?

I'm not that confident that's the case though, have started on the wine and am already feeling it!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/06/2017 19:43

And if rosenstein committed any wrong doing, then mueller would be a witness to that so would have to recuse himself. I think.

cozietoesie · 16/06/2017 19:45

This is primarily political and not legal. Wink

cozietoesie · 16/06/2017 19:48

And if there are any legal issues, I'm sure that those Babes in the Wood, Richman and Comey, can address them. Smile

Lweji · 16/06/2017 19:52

Not sure how Mueller would be a witness, though. He was an outsider when nominated, presumably. Unless Comey also confided in him.

Also, it's possible that some people could argue that his nomination for Special Counsel was tainted, but he's a Republican (right?) and has just appointed democrats for his team and has a good reputation.

The main issue is who is capable of supervising his investigation in the DOJ. And I mean allocating funds and resources.
At some point, I wonder if recusal by Rosenstein and Sessions is enough.

GingerIvy · 16/06/2017 21:19

Teddy Davis‏
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"The president of the United States cannot obstruct justice."
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Michael Cohen‏ @speechboy71 6h6 hours ago
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Michael Cohen Retweeted Teddy Davis
YOU LITERALLY IMPEACHED BILL CLINTON FOR OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE

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