to seriously resent security charades

[Morphene]

My DD has some SEN like issues so the unexpected appearance of a security charade at the Sage Gateshead was basically game over regarding her attending her lesson there this morning.

I seriously resent this bullshit. Actual security where needed is one thing. Standing around wearing yellow jackets glancing in people's bags is not actually providing any security whatsoever. On top of this it was creating a bottleneck and a nice juicy looking queue outside the building - so actively increasing the security risk from basically zero, to very slightly more than basically zero.

So on the basis that their security charade both made the members of the public marginally less safe, and also prevented my girl from accessing education, AIBU to award the Sage the Morphene for doing the terrorists job for them?

I'm sorry. I'm not sure that I understand. Presumably it was a lowish-key type security check (as opposed to armed Police)? But why would it be a 'charade'?

Morphene Star. Wossat then?

What are you on about?

Would you rather have been blown to fuck?

Catch a grip.

This is very odd. How does the presence of a queue stop access to education?

And what are "SEN like issues". Someone surely either has some additional needs or not. Undiagnosed, I could understand but "like"?

YABU

All sorts of public places especially shopping centres which have been the focus of attacks in other countries have been carrying out random checks even if they do amount to what you suggest are cursory looks into bags.

If you daughter has some SEN issues you perhaps should have explained to her in an appropriate way what was happening.

I would rather people were being checked than being attacked. For checks to work then everyone needs to be subject to the checks.

I assume her "lesson" was not her formal education but some form of extra curricular music/dance/swimming type lesson. Perhaps the people running the classes should have made people aware that they would need to leave earlier as checks were being carried out so you could make a decision about going or not going or explaining what would happen to your daughter.

However YABU to expect that checks should not be carried out or that you get a free pass!

I'm going to guess 'charade' because the OP feels it is unnecessary.

Additional unexpected security checks accessing somewhere, creating queues and a delay, could be distressing to those with SEN (especially Autism) and could make a parent decide not to continue with their plans.

I have no idea what a morphene star is ...

No op not with you on yhus one. We went to oaris recently and a lot if the security you are describibg is similar there for shopping malls etc. I think its more about a presence and deterrent rather than a full on body search.
Sorry you were inconvenienced but rather that than making the place an easy target. Your need does not trump everyone else' security

I'll try again....

it is a charade, because it is a pretence of additional security. There is no actual increase in security, because that would require more thorough checks than those actually being performed.

I would prefer that they not pretend to check people.

In fact my ordered preference runs:

No checks
Real checks
Pretend checks
Getting blown up

It prevented my DD from getting to her lesson because of the fear it provoked in her.

Scaring people while making them less actually secure is the job of the terrorists. We shouldn't be helping them for free.

My user name is 'Morphene' hence the Morphene star. I'm sorry that was confusing.

So many typos..... sorry

Ah yes...explaining! I should totally have tried that

So checking bags isn't a necessary security measure. I would rather they did tbh.

If they don't do those checks and there's a terrorist bomb you know they'll be criticised, don't you

mini well that is the point isn't it. Every time you increase security pantomime, you make some people feel better, and some worse.

Actually I suspect you make most people feel worse...because seeing guns isn't actually very common in the UK.

The important thing is not to confuse actual security with security pantomime.

Security pantomime doesn't make you more secure - and in this case it makes it worse.

Actually checking bags might (though almost certainly not) help.

That isn't what they were doing.

Honestly.

deck indeed. Had I any intention of getting a knife or gun past this lot I wold have had zero difficulty.

hence it was a security charade.

These checks are going to become more commonplace. You will need to respond more positively to the situation and help your daughter overcome the fear.
Please don't say "SEN like". If she has SEN it comes across as embarssment of her. If she doesn't it's as though your parcelling some negative behaviours as SEN.

sunny imagine the criticism there will be if it happens when they HAVE supposedly been checking (though actually haven't been).

I say SEN like, as she is awaiting diagnosis, so I can't yet claim it directly. No shame, just trying to be factually accurate.

I am from Northern Ireland, grew up in the troubles. For me, yes to security checks, police presence also a big yes for me. After Manchester, TM mentioned putting army on streets. I have not seen this and On Thursday I was in London Charing Cross Station twice and not a policeman in sight. I felt nervous and annoyed.

OP. These are dangerous times. Please try not to be negative about whatever sort of security is being offered. We need this. Explain why this is now happening to your daughter. I think we will be seeing a lot more of this.

No-one would have been remotely put off by this one. Honestly they couldn't have been more transparent about not actually taking it seriously.

Also anyone wanting to do damage would thank them for creating a nice dense queue of people to attack instead, and saving them the bother of walking all the way into the building.

It would probably have occurred to me that it might be happening, if we had been going there for a show, but we were going for a lesson with two other people in the basement!