Why doesn't Corbyn understand that he lost?

[Sittinonthefloor]

I'm totally bemused! He thinks it's an absolutely 'incredible' result and that May should resign. Has no one told him that more people voted for her and the tories have more MPs? The tories ran an appalling campaign, trying to sell hugely unpopular policies, May comes across dreadfully (all twitchy and brittle) yet still more people voted for her - even with all the bribes he was offering. A decent candidate could have won it for labour, (Yvette cooper?) I know there's been a big swing, but still! Not winning against a poor opponent who's run a dreadful campaign is hardly a cause for celebration.

Perhaps if they'd taken a bit more time to choose their new leader instead of being satisfied with the poor choice last time, they wouldn't be in this mess now.

I dunno, there wasn't really anyone else was there? May was their best of a bad bunch.

Osborne was too closely associated with Remain to be able to realistically do it. Johnson was getting shit from both sides after being so obviously opportunistic: the Remainers hated him and the Leavers didn't trust him. The public don't like Gove and he was outmanoeuvred, and Leadsom couldn't even manage to get through a slightly dicey interview with the Times without making a tit of herself. IDS is well known to have fucked up Universal Credit entirely and his credibility was damaged by that.The only other one was David Davis really, and he's a bit of a charisma vacuum (matters more than it should).

No doubt they would oliversmumsarmy, but they are anyway.

May was indeed the best of a bad bunch. Let's not let's not forget, it was a choice between her and Andrea Leadsom. I can't think either of anyone else who's come through since. They appear very low on talent at the moment, which is probably another reason why they're letting her limp on.

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I dunno, there wasn't really anyone else was there? May was their best of a bad bunch. "

That's what I mean. They didn't give themselves time to see who settled, who else might come forward...

They did exactly the same on Friday: went galloping off to the Palace before consulting their party or even waiting to see if their decision was even legal, let alone advisable.

Even Trump is distancing himself now (good!).

I don't think they had any choice on Friday - they had to scramble a government together one way or other. Let's just keep remembering that the hole they were in was entirely of their own digging.

Don't worry folks. It'll all be fine. Apparently the DUP is insisting on Farage having a role in this government. (I got this from the Times).

And yes even Trump isn't as stupid as we'd like to think.

And Farage isn't even an MP I guess he could have a role as May's chauffeur - no-one else will want to do it.

They want him made a lord or given a role in Brexit.

I beg his pardon, I believe he's still an MEP although easy to forget as by all accounts he never shows up.

MissShittyBennet they might offer but unlike Corbyn who said he would grab anything. The others would see it as an opportunity to negotiate. Or walk away.

Donald Trump was congratulatory. Who says he is distancing himself? Just who?

It's certainly ludicrous to suggest that the leader of an opposition party which got almost as big a share of the vote as the government should now be saying that we need strong and stable government, so they are going to back Theresa May's conservatives. If the nation wanted strong and stable government under the Tories, they would have voted for it. What actually happened was that far too few people believed this was a strong and stable country under Tory control and that, actually, there is more going on at the moment than Brexit (think education, NHS, police vociferously complaining of burnout, social welfare, housing, etc, etc), and the Tories have lost the plot on all that, so why should we believe they have Brexit under control?!

Exactly, I didn't vote for the labour party in order for them to now lend their support to the tories. What an absurd idea. In fact my main complaint about Corbyn for the last year is that he hasn't acted enough like a leader of the opposition. I'm delighted to see him stepping up at last.

But they are - on brexit at least. See John McD interview this morning.

If the reported phone call took place between Trump and May then it was said to be weeks ago. Nothing to do with his distancing himself from May post election.

However I see Corbyn has jumped in with a tweet welcoming the unconfirmed cancellation of a visit. If he wants to be PM he would need to serve the Queen and welcome state visits from the US President. Not Prime Minister material.

Roundaboutthetown Labour didn't get nearly the amount as the Conservatives they got around 800,000 less and 57 seats less

Oh, ffs. I'm quite certain he would stoop to all that if he got to be PM. It's so pathetic to attempt to make issues out of non-issues. Attacking him on his policies is fair game, but pkease no kore of that tiresome tripe. Trotting it out just makes his detractors sound like loons. He has credibility, now, so attack him on his policies if you don't like them, stop harking back to what didn't wash.

Oliversmumsarmy - in a country of millions with a stupid voting system, that is irrelevant.

I think Cuppa and Oliver's mummy are correct insofar as Corbyn still has a lot to do if he's to persuade enough people that he's up to the job. But he's not prime minister at the moment - Theresa May is and it's her clear lack of competence that we should be more worried about.

It's definitely about time that Corbyn stopped the nonsense about putting together an alternative govt to the Tories.

Even if he got every other party, plus the independent MP to join him, he would have less seats than the Tories.
(315 to the Tories 318)

The only way he can overtake the Tories is by the DUP joining him too - which is apparently not what any of his supporters want (not that I would imagine the DUP would countenance joining him anyway).

MissShittyBennet they might offer but unlike Corbyn who said he would grab anything

Do you have any links to where Corbyn affirmed 'I will take any deal they give me' or are you just using what Treeza said in her speech?

Wasn't it 40% of the vote versus 42%? Seems pretty damn close to me.

Funny what you can achieve if you offer everything with absolutely no chance of delivering it!