AIBU in thinking JC should resign?

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He's made a mockery of the Labour Party and won votes by creating a manifesto that the country could not afford to deliver!!!

Resign JC !!!

Sorry about typos it's T.M's fault, she does that to me

All of this is academic anyway. Tm will form a Government and that we will enter Brexit negotiations weaker than before. We are all screwed.

I'm not convinced that TM will be able to form a government.

The DUP aren't committing themselves.

God the Conservatives have really done a number on the Country. First the stupid referendum. Now this totally unnecessary vanity project election which severely backfired.
Now tomorrow they will try a cobble together an agreement which could potentially threaten peace and stability in NI.
But it's all. JC and his groupies fault apparently. And that nasty NS.

Better hope your employer agrees with you, moomin. Yours might.

Haven't got one!

People get ridiculously hysterical over taxes, plenty of European countries pay way more tax than we do and they're not all in economic calamity fgs.

I think it's disgusting people aren't willing to pay a bit more tax to benefit society.

It would not be a "bit more" under Corbyn for the 1% of us who already pay 27% of taxes though. It would be utterly crippling. But thankfully he lost so no problem on the tax front.

I worked it out to about an extra 5k a year for us I think.

The uk is not in disarray. Nothing has really changed. It's just the media getting excited

So our current ruling parliament loosing their majority in parliament is nothing? If you genuinely believe nothing has changed you need to read more. EVERYTHING has changed.

It's a lot more extra than that for me. And even more for DH moomin.

But that's not my issue. My issue is whether the necessary tax take is achievable on such small margins.

TBH those in the 80-150k band are not the real issue ( most will not be mobile). It's the small number at the top end on who the numbers are reliant.

It's also about corporation tax, which is currently extremely low in the UK at the moment.

Come on it wasn't that long ago that all higher rate tax payers paid 50%

Dandan, and yet nobody else in the city seems to be talking of leaving. Huge firms handling serious monies, and they're not talking about shifting out, economists, bankers. They all seem to be staying put.
There are a fair few economists who are with Corbyn.
So, I see your bollocks and raise you an oh shit, they're all still here...

this needs investigation - share and sign
www.change.org/p/uk-electoral-commission-labour-general-election-fraud-2017

Drew up by The Sun. Really credible. How about all the students who registered but couldn't vote. Or the 6500 Labour votes not count in marginal Conservative seat Plymouth. Labour still took the seat from the Tories. Anyway shouldn't the people on the right just accept it.
After all we have been told we should just accept democracy as "the Tories won and Labour lost".

Just checked the phrase. "A bit pathetic."

PMSL The Sun....have taken a tweet from a kid and think that's a source....proves a lot

Hey Sun... I voted 10 times...in 5 consitituencues.. one time I was even a man...and another time an alien

THIS NEEDS INVESTIGATING

dawn with all due respect when was the last time you were in the city? How many folk do you know who actually work there?

Of course there's talk of moving/early retirement/changing tax affairs!

Now of course some of it is just muttering. But at such small margins the figures can't afford any drop in tax take.

Should that young man not be under arrest now?

I am sure the Sun will pay his fine.

christina the issue with corporation tax is that again, the manifesto spending pledges factor in no change in behaviour.

Which is a massive assumption when you consider what corps are, what their sole purpose is and how nimble many of them are.

The issue with reliance on HRIT and CT is how small amounts of movement/changes in behaviour have disproportionate effects on tax take. They are not anywhere near as reliable as, say, general taxation.

So borrowing a huge amount of money, on the gamble that you'll be able to meet the minimum repayments through HRIT and CT is something that we need as a country to at least explore. If even asking a question about that is met with ridicule and silencing, then we're in a pretty poor situation.

Mary "utterly crippling". Really? I am somewhat perplexed at how a relatively small hike to your tax billl could be classified as "crippling". After all, everything under £80k, a pretty decent salary, will be taxed as before.

High tax payer here. Kid in private school. Voted Labour. Likewise other friends at school

We did it for the many not ourselves

I am in fits. Been on the guys Twitter page whose tweet started the petition and he said it was a joke.