AIBU in thinking JC should resign?

[QuiteLikely5]

He's made a mockery of the Labour Party and won votes by creating a manifesto that the country could not afford to deliver!!!

Resign JC !!!

ShatnersWig
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Is that you Theresa? Get back to your wheat field, love.

^^^ THIS
Your post is hilarious OP!!😂

Ah so someone is TM on here, is HelenaD Mrs Corbyn - same age gap and similar ages!

No Mary Im not Mrs Corbyn. Although i definately would.

Wheat fields? Pffft I can do better than that. When i was eleven me and a friend were walking across a golf course and we took this golf ball from the ground and ran and hid behind a hedge.

The golfer comes along looking for said ball and cant find it. He got really airreated about it banging his club on the ground. Was funny.

Oh Helena. I was very naughty I shagged exh in the copse behind the school rugby pitch

*Toast - agree with you regarding prejudices! My DSIL believes it was the left wing media bias against the poor tories which lost them the election (in particular The Telegraph) - she looked a bit shocked when DH told her it was called the Torygraph for good reason! She looked even more shocked when DH said he voted for JC - adding he would have been more likely to vote for a banana than TM (or perhaps h should have said a fishfinger?)

Me 49
DD2 19
DD2's BF 19
XH 55
XFIL 82

We all voted Labour. I was the only one who had voted Labour previously. XFIL, who is really clever, and v wealthy (scholarship to Cambridge to read History) v politically minded, and has always voted Tory, voted Labour for the first time. He is disgusted with how the Tories conducted their campaign, and has had enough of their self serving policies. He also started out as a JC hater, but fortunately is more than capable of fact checking and working out what is media bias crap.

The Hitler vegetarian thing is a prime example. A simple Google would dismiss it as myth, but so few of us challenge the 'facts' that are presented to us, allowing that myth to flourish. It's for that very same reason that stuff like Corbyn being an IRA supporter, or not wearing a poppy survives. People believe there's a mythical river with purple trees, when it's a photoshopped picture of a perfectly ordinary river in NZ.

We need to start teaching Critical Thinking in schools PDQ.

Portia

DH and i tried to do it in Hatfield Forest 25 years ago. But it started raining.

Theniffler I used to as part of philosophy and ethics. Would you believe the Critical Thinking As and A level got axed recently by the Tory govt...

Are you joking? Win 34 seats in a 7 week campaign on a costed manifesto...... Where are the Tory costs? And why do you think it can't be delivered?

Hmm Helena rain stopped play

Niffler - I totally agree but sadly critical thinking is conditioned out of young people by the curriculum. They need to learn how to regurgitate facts in an acceptable way and that is all.

In HE we spend the first year trying to teach people to think for themselves and to realise that the sum of learning is more than a mark for an assignment. Not their fault, just what the education system currently teaches people because it is safer to have a load of drones than people with independent and therefore challenging thought

It's for that very same reason that stuff like Corbyn being an IRA supporter, or not wearing a poppy survives

And yet Corbyn was certainly an IRA supporter. I thought he was innocent but had a look at the evidence. There are many, many documented instances of his support from sources as various as Hansard, contemporary articles and accounts, photos, letters, diaries, biographies etc, and none to the contrary until circa July 2015.

Bollocks. He was not an IRA supporter. As for photographic evidence, I believe the queen was pictured hosting Martin MacGuinness and even shaking his hand.

Its always older voters accusing the young of voting for free uni. Well to me now that older generation have their houses and had a free education fuck us young people now. If your going to patronise the young expect us to throw the selfish tory vote at you!

allthepretty

I would be very interested in that as i cant find anything saying he was an ira supporter

Nothing that stands up to any scrutiny

Could you link to anything for me please

I do know he talked to unionists at the time as well

I don't think JC or TM should resign. No one should resign. Just get on with debating their different views and forming policy out of it. Completely democratic. I didn't vote for the party either represent in my constituency. No more elections and referendums please, we've had enough I think and we should just let our elected reps get on with it for now.

So you have evidence that JC actually supported the IRA? Given the mail or the sun couldn't find it I'm astounded. Do share.

Corbyn Tory fake news. For those interested in how the Tories created the 'fake news' ads that appeared on FB (which is not under Ofcom guidelines). www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/02/labour-accuses-tories-of-fake-news-over-video-of-corbyn-ira-comments

Wow that is awful Citroen.

Plan the problem is that under the current system, no elected reps won enough votes to be able to 'get on with it.'

I can't see any alternative to another General Election tbh.

Well, seeing ad you've done so much research on the issue all I assume you already came across this:

The violence was wrong on all sides and I have said so all along. My whole point was if we are to bring about a peace process, you weren’t going to achieve it by military means.”

So he's just a man that opposes military intervention? He's not the only one. Over a million marched against us going into the war in Iraq. How does stating that violence is wrong on both sides make someone an IRA supporter?

*as not ad.

Come on @allthepretty. We are waiting.

We are stuck with him , I'm afraid.