AIBU in thinking JC should resign?

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He's made a mockery of the Labour Party and won votes by creating a manifesto that the country could not afford to deliver!!!

Resign JC !!!

The Labour Party lost. Corbyn personally did pretty well - so well in a sense he's a Tory asset as it may well mean if he is still leader in the 2022 election the Tories might get a second 5 years.

Mary 😂

Nelly how on earth have people chose to make you and your sons life hell?

The NHS will be privatised by stealth, in work benefits will be cut with no rise in wages, education is already going to shit, and they've just teamed up with a party who make the Victorian times look progressive. I'm pretty pissed off on behalf of my kids too, because the ramifications of this utter car crash are going to last long after I'm gone.

so well in a sense he's a Tory asset as it may well mean if he is still leader in the 2022 election the Tories might get a second 5 years

or

Tories and DUP will reign over Brexit

No-one will be happy. The people who voted to get of the brown people will not be happy, the people who voted to donate £350 million to the NHS will not be happy - the people who want no Brexit but would settle for a soft Brexit will be happiest but will also have the sense to see that the Tories got us in the mess in the first place and then worsened it with an election they didn't need to hold.

May has destroyed her parties credibility with all the U-turns, denigrating Corbyn for talking with the IRA and then getting into bed with terrorists herself - that will piss off a lot of people.

In five years all those people will not be voting Tory, not that I believe she will last five years.

I predict she'll oversee Brexit negotiations and then another election will be called (and by she I mean the Tories, I doubt May will last until Monday)

Nelly how on earth have people chose to make you and your sons life hell?

Presume she means the Tory party's complete and utter disregard for the vulnerable in society?

when the economy is utterly knackered and the country has no investment or high earners left to fleece is absolutely the post-Brexit scenario under May et al, not a JC manifesto.

Inconceivable that the UK's richest and most highly-skilled workers - many of them from the EU - will remain in the UK in a post-Brexit world where there has been no effort to make them feel valued or welcome. The uncertainty and instability that the original referendum caused, then the fall out, then this unnecessary election and now the fall out of that. What a shower.

I also love the concept that high earners are being "fleeced" by paying more tax for the benefit of a society which everyone lives in.

And I say that as a high earner.

He only got those votes due to his undeliverable manifesto!

Speaking of undeliverable manifestos and lies made up to get votes how about we look for all the money Boris promised the NHS if we all voted Brexit?

OP are you on glue?

(Not RTFT so sorry if this has been asked before.)

Am I on glue?

Seriously what a childish, unintelligent, pointless contribution to the thread!

Is that the best you can do rather than offer a valid argument?

Plenty of valid arguments on the thread op, feel free to reasons.

Respond, even.

Corbyn increased labour seats, increased the percentage of the labour vote - its higher today than it was in 2001. There was a massive turn out and a number of safe Tory seats went to labour and he inspired young people to vote. He has won a leadership election twice and won his own seat with a massive majority once again. He fought the personal attacks and smears on his character from the press, the Torys and some of his own party with dignity and integrity. Is that better?

Sorry if you thought my response was childish but it was a truly stupid question.

My DS is an economist who knows the figures and they are talking of 30 years to right the mess Labour left

This again...before the global crash Labour were in an excellent position financially. Yes they could have prepared more, but lest we forget that the Tories actually wanted less regulation with the banks. Because of this had the Tories been in during the financial crisis, the debt we were left with would have been even higher.

OP you are absolutely on crack and YABU. What Corbyn achieved in 52 days to increase the vote share of the Labour party and increase seats as well as win consittituencies that have been forever blue shows that he is a force to be reckoned with. This has been a dry run for him and overwhelmingly shows that not only is he electable but that he has integrity and resilience in the face of vicious smears and doubts from the main stream media and his own party. Even by not winning, he will be able to command strong leadership over the labour party, hold Teresa May's feet over the coals and benefit from here probable mistakes to win by majority next time.

Purpleprickles
Thank you for telling me about the wheat fields!!

He won't be going anywhere and Labour will move to the left

I doubt the infighting will stop let's not pretend now that he has lead a good opposition he hasn't but he did have a very good campaign and the Tories got it wrong and Labour got it eighth he Tories by having less ambitious manifesto and pushing that we are going to go through difficult times and May was the person to lead you through that (I doubt many on here will disagree that we won't be going through a difficult period) Corbyn didn't address this the Labour manifesto embraced hope and many people wanted to hear this and were prepared to over look issues that come along with such a manifesto and Corbyn/McDonnell

I never thought he would get anywhere near the support he did but it won't be all cosy in the Labour Party and I'm sure there will be changes with the shadow cabinet

I agree with two

It was an incredibly dumb question

Yes...feeling really stable following a referendum, for which the result wasn't planned & an election which has resulted in a hung parliament - just prior to vital Brexit negotiations. Both of which the Tories are responsible for. Yeah good one, OP.

Yes, Jeremy. It appears that your party has won Kensington. You must feel like a total failure .

Well, here is a peep. As a Labour party member, I have been very concerned about some of JC's on-the-record associations and statements (eg his appearance before the HofC select cttee last summer). I certainly don't hate him but I thought he was the wrong man for the job. And I am now surprised and pleased by Labour's performance while still having doubts about how we can ever win a majority (partly because of the way Lab stacks up votes in the cities, and partly because it seems to have at least two fairly irreconcilable constituencies). And f we couldn't beat this utterly vile and incompetent shower......And I am appalled and disgusted at TM's actions today and at the power now given to the DUP. I really, really hope JC reaches out now, offers some SC posts across the PLP and gets a vigorous and talented team to fight this stuff. I am not optimistic given the sneering and crowing going on today from people who seem to think the aim was to beat "the blairites" not the tories but I hope that is what happens.

DUPED AND CONNED
Geddit

I really hope JC reaches out now, offers some SC posts across the PLP

It's a miracle that he achieved what he did today given the lack of support from within the PLP. 172 of his MPs stepped down. 172!!! JC wasn't just doing battle with the Tories.