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Sorry, you lost me at Tax The Rich Tory Bastards

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cathf · 08/06/2017 19:18

Last night my husband asked me why I (nearly) always vote Conservative.
I have spent the past fortnight praising JC for the way he has turned his campaign round and he has certainly convinced my son that Labour are the way forward.
My vote has certainly not been the Done Deal it has been in the past.
However I was swayed away from Labour for one reason, i realised this morning.
I sound so shallow, but I can't bear the thought of being associated with the left-wing mob I have been deluged with day after day on social media and here.
Every day I have seen such infantile nonsense on Facebook from a couple of friends who have been whipping themselves into a hysterical frenzy about the Conservatives.
I get it Theresa May is not everyone's cup of tea, but a picture of her on the streets with the caption 'Hope She Gets What She Deserves on June 9' - how utterly pathetic.
I've seen awful personal attacks on people who have asked questions of Labour on QT- apparently someone is Tory Scum for having the temerity to wear a £150 jumper.
And anyone not toeing the Labour line is either scum, thick or at best needs to be taught the error of their ways. They don't understand you see.
So my AIBU is: Has the endless social media and forum posting from a vocal Left wing had the complete opposite effect to the desired one?

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SilentlyScreamingAgain · 08/06/2017 20:40

But that completely ignores the fact that newspapers are dying. People who buy newspapers are more likely to put a packet of Tena Lady in their shopping basket than a Mars Bar.

Gosh, I had no idea that so many folks had bladder problems, the latest figures I can get for Dailymail Online is 11.34 million individual visitors per day.

PlinkyTheFairyWitch · 08/06/2017 20:41

People who buy newspapers are more likely to put a packet of Tena Lady in their shopping basket than a Mars Bar.

And they're precisely the ones most likely to vote. My grandad believed absolutely everything the Daily Hate told him to, for instance.

I've seen a whole load of bollocks from both sides. I wish they wouldn't do it, it achieves nothing for anyone.

'Ah, you called me a greedy Tory cunt/libtard snowflake cuck, I will change my vote forthwith!' said no-one ever.

But they do. I take no notice. Why on earth would you care? A lot of it's just venting.

Rockaby · 08/06/2017 20:42

Another one basing their vote on policies and general ethos of the party rather than some childish memes Hmm.

Surely your problem should be with Facebook / your Facebook 'friends' rather than the party they are posting in support of.

jamie2 · 08/06/2017 20:43

I've hid my facebook friends who are making nasty statements about people who don't agree with their own political point of view. I really don't want to align myself with their strident views whether on the right or left. In face the personal vitriol expressed during this election seems far wotse than ever before and it's turning me off politics altogether as I dont want to become embroiled in futule arguments where I have to defend my position.

jamie2 · 08/06/2017 20:45

hidden, not hid

TreeTop7 · 08/06/2017 20:45

I'm a swing voter and centrist. I think that the bleating from some people on both sides has been childish and counterproductive. I'd like to ban the nonsense phrases "money tree", "unicorns", "selling the NHS", "turkeys voting for Christmas" which get proudly trotted out but really mean nothing.

CivQueen · 08/06/2017 20:45

I've heard a lot of people say that in real life.

Thing is, these people are all self confessed lifelong Tories.

So I'm a bit bemused as to how they can be turned off the left when they have never so much as glanced in its direction Grin

Tribal voters will vote the way they always have. Some floating voters will be turned off, some won't.

Though if you are basing your vote on what some people say on the internet that's a bit silly. I prefer to look at policies personally.

HoldMyHeadWellTrampoline · 08/06/2017 20:46

Vote what you like.

Fab39ish · 08/06/2017 20:46

Whether you read the papers or not you can't avoid the front pages.

Fab39ish · 08/06/2017 20:50

Most of the press is represented online too you know and most of them are right wing.

BillSykesDog · 08/06/2017 20:52

Gosh, I had no idea that so many folks had bladder problems, the latest figures I can get for Dailymail Online is 11.34 million individual visitors per day

Since when did you put a website in a basket with your shopping? I was clearly referring to print copy.

The DM is an international site and gets a lot of hits from shite about the Kardashians from people who will never set foot in the UK, let alone vote.

The BBC is by far and away the most popular U.K. news source. Online news sources are very diffuse and varied. Murdoch's papers have utterly failed online and they are hugely diminished in importance.

Yet you'll still get lefties whinging on about Murdoch brainwashing. Which also conveniently ignores that consumers choose media which reflects their own views rather than bovinely picking up a random newspaper and believing everything it says.

BillSykesDog · 08/06/2017 20:54

Most of the press is represented online too you know and most of them are right wing.

Go and have a little read of the disaster that is the right wing press online. Aside from the mail they die on their arses.

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 08/06/2017 20:55

bleeding heart left wing types seem to think it's perfectly legitimate to swoon and say " i could never bring myself to vote Tory" yet oddly, they cannot comprehend that instinctive revulsion may operate to sway others in a different direction. Certainly there is a doctrinaire, authoritarian, dictatorial tendency among labour supporters that makes me suspicious of their party. If these dickheads like it there must be something wrong with it sort of thing.

silkybear · 08/06/2017 20:56

If you vote tory that is fine but why can't you just own it. Don't make it out the left has forced you into it!

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 08/06/2017 20:59

Another one who can't read
Give me strength

Highalert · 08/06/2017 21:02

Now now, A Tory calling people who vote differently to you dickheads is enough to make me want to vote Labour...

SilentlyScreamingAgain · 08/06/2017 21:03

BillSykesDog, I've just gone and had a bit of a read of your previous posts and you seem to have a bit of a habit of being, shall we say, controversial and not overly polite. It seems a bit rich to behave like that and then to moan about those who reply in kind.

Maybe this is why other folks are having the same experiences as you?

SilentlyScreamingAgain · 08/06/2017 21:04

AREN'T

Rockaby · 08/06/2017 21:09

There has definitely been name calling and general dickishness on both sides imho. The dickishness wasn't coming from either the parties (Tory or Labour), just some of their supporters, so it hasn't made me change my mind about who I wanted to vote for. However, it would definitely make me think differently about friends if they posted shit like this.

I'm not on Facebook or anything, which is a blessing ATM by the sounds of things.

PigletJohn · 10/06/2017 09:47

"Sorry, you lost me at Tax The Rich Tory Bastards"

interesting point. It's my opinion that the billionaire tax-dodging boss of the Daily Mail, Viscount Harmsworth, ought to pay some tax, considering he was born in Britain, brought up and educated here, has his country estate and palatial mansion here, and his London home, and has his business here, manufacturing the product here, and selling it here to UK residents.

I like the idea that tax-dodging Billionaires like Richard Branson should not be allowed to bid for government contracts when they are going to whisk their profits into overseas havens, and pay no tax here.

FinallyThroughTheRoof · 10/06/2017 09:52

You lost me at "being a Tory".

Shockers · 10/06/2017 10:01

I am a Labour supporter. I have felt disappointed by this kind of thing from both sides and have called out the 'Jeremy Corbyn for PM' group for some of it, simply because I feel it is against everything he stands for.

However, the worst of putting down supporters of the opposing party has, in my experience, come from Conservative supporters.

I unfollowed a few relatives on fb and now I'm a lot happier Grin.

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