Sorry, you lost me at Tax The Rich Tory Bastards

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Last night my husband asked me why I (nearly) always vote Conservative.
I have spent the past fortnight praising JC for the way he has turned his campaign round and he has certainly convinced my son that Labour are the way forward.
My vote has certainly not been the Done Deal it has been in the past.
However I was swayed away from Labour for one reason, i realised this morning.
I sound so shallow, but I can't bear the thought of being associated with the left-wing mob I have been deluged with day after day on social media and here.
Every day I have seen such infantile nonsense on Facebook from a couple of friends who have been whipping themselves into a hysterical frenzy about the Conservatives.
I get it Theresa May is not everyone's cup of tea, but a picture of her on the streets with the caption 'Hope She Gets What She Deserves on June 9' - how utterly pathetic.
I've seen awful personal attacks on people who have asked questions of Labour on QT- apparently someone is Tory Scum for having the temerity to wear a £150 jumper.
And anyone not toeing the Labour line is either scum, thick or at best needs to be taught the error of their ways. They don't understand you see.
So my AIBU is: Has the endless social media and forum posting from a vocal Left wing had the complete opposite effect to the desired one?

But this is an almost identical post to your previous one in which you told us all left wing people on social media were nasty and refused to acknowledge any examples that it cuts both ways because you believe the likes of Katie Hopkins sit in beatific silence?. that descended into a bun fight. You started off all nice and reasonable and then became pretty triumphalist yourself when you were egged on a bit.

This will happen again as you well know and that is goady imo.

Vote as you choose. That's democracy.

There's a couple of posters get what I am talking about.
The others are doing the usual personal attacks. Apparently there is a quota on how often you can post on MN if you are voting Tory

I don't believe you.

"Social Media noise" starts discussions and provokes thought. That's a good thing.

I don't like nastiness but on balance I think it might be better than voter apathy.

As far as I can see the people on FB complaining about Poltics on Facebook are the ones who dislike being challenged about their views.

you need to advance search OP, or maybe go back to school for basic math lessons. Buy hey you only post twice a week

My issue with it is, that your trying to pull the victim card, when you've completely lost tract of the reality, as you cannot see outside the tory box, and putting one group of votes into a one "those are nasty supporters" , because you cant see above your own nose.

I can also see counting and remembering things aren't your strongest traits either.

I am not personally attacking you!

I can voice my opinion on your endless threads of the same bloody subject. again and again and again and again....

But not influenced by the downright lies of the right wing media eh OP?.

So a meme about a Tory is worse than the s*n referring to corbyn as a terrorist alongside their headline about the Manchester atrocity? Hmmm

There are twats of all political persuasions.

I think I missed the bit In the labour or any other left of centre manifesto that you get the quote in your thread title from, mind, OP.

There had been mud slinging on both sides. After the terror attacks in London, there were a fair few people on social media who were calling out Labour supporters to unfriended them in shame. If you vote based on other people annoying you then you are being a bit daft.

YANBU OP, you're not alone at all. I've been really unimpressed by TM the last few weeks and this, combined with my local Tory candidate being completely invisible, means I could not vote Tory. However, the infantile ranting and outright hysteria of the Labour supporters I know, along with the nauseating way they seem to think they can claim the moral high ground over anyone who might dare to question Saint Jeremy's policies, has put me right off Labour. That, and of course, the unrealistic pie-in-the sky policies contained in that manifesto.

I feel I've probably wasted the vote I made, but I've done so with a clear conscience, knowing that I agree with the sentiment of my chosen party's policies at least....

What a crock of shit.

OP, you tell bigger porkies than they sell in Melton Mowbray!

Just looked and you've posted 17 pro-Tory threads in the last month alone...

Liar, liar pants on fire.

You would seriously base something as important as your democratic vote on a wish not to align yourself with a load of strangers on the internet? You have noticed that it's a secret ballot, haven't you? No one would ever know that you'd voted the same way as these dreadful people if you didn't announce it. So why not step back and consider the issues of principle that led you to want to vote Labour in the first place. None of those change just because people you dislike also support them.

I have seen loads of nasty pro-Tory / anti Labour stuff circulating on social media too.

Just yesterday there was vile stuff about Diane Abbott.

Vote how you like, for whatever reasons you like. For me it isn't about what people post, that's up to them. It's about what will happen to the children whose education is being funded appallingly. Maybe you don't care, or maybe you think it's propaganda...it isn't, it's based on fact. I need a party in power who will truely support and enable our children to have a great education...nothing to do with wether I am left wing or not.

Speaking as someone who cannot vote anywhere, too long away from the UK and no voting rights where I live, despite being a taxpayer and a householder, I would have voted for the party that intervened the least in the daily lives of its citizens.
I believe everyone should be able to choose how they spend their earnings. Certainly a basic social safety net, for those who really are not able to fend for themselves, is a necessity in the modern world, but it should be basic.
Policies of promoting envy or spying on your neighbours, friends, nearest and dearest are not to be encouraged.
In my GinWorld there should be as little intervention as possible. Let people make their own choices as to lifestyle, housing, education etc. Keep state administration as simple and transparent as possible with clearly-defined processes that are "standard". Support the weak and struggling, but let Joe Public get on with his/her life as he or she sees fit.
Oh and I am not overly keen on political correctness, but that might be my age ;-)

Well most of my friends are more left wing. A few post quite alot but none of it is nasty or extreme. Unlike some of the stuff posted by a rogue Tory supporter.
But I guess everyone sees what they want to see or suits their own agenda.
What was noticeable today was the sheer number of newspapers supporting the right. To be this is more important than a few random facebook posters.

Sorry rogue wrong word. Just meant a minority.

It does make you question it. Because a lot of these people will be close to power and Labour in particular have a history of using positions of power to spread their agenda through public services.

I've seen posts on here from people who think it is perfectly acceptable for a teacher to tell their students that Labour are the right people to vote for and why. And that's when Labour aren't even in power. The last time they were in power the stuff that used to go on in schools promoting left wing ideology was scary. And I believe they'd be perfectly happy to do the same again.

I find it quite chilling. Because this mixture of intimidation, abuse and exploitation of state machinery and legislation to press and spread their ideology is reminiscent of facist and communist heavies back in the day.

During the equal marriage referendum in Ireland, social media was full of people saying that they would vote in favour of equality if only everyone was a bit nicer to them. I found it very difficult to believe then and I find it very difficult to believe now.

Vote how you want, good luck on getting the outcome you want but I find it very difficult to believe that any sane adult basis their vote on the behaviour of others voting one way or another.

(I didn't become less obviously less gay to make anyone feel that I deserved the same civil rights as them.)

Oh, I saw a comment on FB about voting Tory to make the next series of Benefit Britian/Benefit Street (?) 'more interesting'. I think that individual is a total wanker but it doesn't convince me that all Tory voters are wankers.

'Sheer number of newspapers supporting the right'?

But that completely ignores the fact that newspapers are dying. People who buy newspapers are more likely to put a packet of Tena Lady in their shopping basket than a Mars Bar.

Most people get their news online and Murdoch's influence is tits up.

The left really need to find someone new to blame because blaming the papers and Murdoch is wearing very thin.

Like other posters on here, policies and general ethos of a party is what i base my voting decision on.

It does make you question it. Because a lot of these people will be close to power and Labour in particular have a history of using positions of power to spread their agenda through public services.

Do you mean the way the Thaacher government imposed Section 28, leaving teachers unable to discuss homosexuality with their students, leaving gay kids unable to access help and support or something else?