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To think Teresa May has just won the election?

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desertmum · 04/06/2017 11:12

Listening to TM outside Downing Street vs JC - I think she may have just won the election - saying what people wnat to hear and hopefully some of what she says needs to be done will be followed through with.

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Charmageddon · 05/06/2017 17:38

What a mess politics is in this country.

Yep.
Agree.

Charmageddon · 05/06/2017 17:39

But Corbyn is not The Saviour unfortunately.

PollyPelargonium52 · 05/06/2017 17:41

I am no Tory whatsoever but I did think her speech was most charismatic and compelling.

Jaxhog · 05/06/2017 17:41

Rubbish, actions speak louder than words and she worships at the altar of Saud while preaching honesty, she is a total hypocrite

What seems so sad, is that TM gets this response, while 'cuddly' JC can spout whatever rubbish he likes and people accept it!!!

Dollymouse · 05/06/2017 17:42

I don't think she sounds strong at all. To me she believes in nothing and wants nothing but to be in power. Jeremy Corbyn seems passionate and believes in something and I believe him when he speaks. Teresa dodges more questions than she answers and seems on the verge of a nervous breakdown. I also think this campaign has been Jeremy verses the right wing press. If I were conservative (and I respect everyone's right to vote how they wish) I would be pretty disgusted with TM right now. It was extremely stupid to call an election when their is so much turmoil in the NHS, in teaching and in the police and public services - when she didn't need to - she is in power. And now with these devastating the terrorist attacks and Amber Rudd defending selling arms to Saudi (who arm IS) - the appalling tragedy is she'll probably still win - it's not an election is a Black Mirror episode.

squoosh · 05/06/2017 17:42

I am no Tory whatsoever but I did think her speech was most charismatic and compelling.

That's the first time I've seen the word charismatic used in relation to May.

PollyPelargonium52 · 05/06/2017 17:43

A friend today commented that if Theresa May were head of the labour party how good it would be. I think he is right. At least she has a bit of va va voom just in my view sadly she has the wrong politics!

shortbreadsharon · 05/06/2017 17:46

Definitely agree with last op. Never thought I'd see the day I'd vote in Tories but the alternate is too scary. JC not willing to press the button terrifies me cos he will be alright down in his wee bunker probably with NS, who can shove her 2nd referendum up her @rse!!!

sleeponeday · 05/06/2017 17:46

Huh? "Enough is enough..." seriously? So bombing the Tube more than a decade ago, and Manchester last month, and killing people right outside Parliament before that... all of that wasn't? And she is saying she can control the internet? Yes, I'm sure a small island in the North Atlantic can do that. It's so easy, controlling an international intangible entity. And definitely the answer - not more cash for policing, or tackling the sources of terrorist funding or anything.

She was warned by a Manchester police officer in 2015 - sat next to him on a panel, when she was Home Secretary - that the cuts she presided over had destroyed community policing, and hence intelligence on terror, and national security was threatened as a result. He was proven correct. She's suppressed a report on the way in which Saudi Arabia has funded terror and paid for the extremist form of Islam to be propagated in this country, because her focus is on selling them weapons. And you think that's more valid as a response than Corbyn saying we can't protect this country on the cheap, and policing cuts must be reversed, and that we have to have painful and embarrassing dialogue with Saudi Arabia and other Gulf States on funding for terrorism?

Under the Conservatives our economy has not done well, and we're the only economy other than Greece that has seen wages actually fall for people on medium or low incomes, since the 2008 crash. The gap between rich and poor has widened drastically, and to top it all, the deficit is larger than it's ever been. The terror threat is greater than it's ever been. Inflation is up, house prices are starting to fall, and she called an election because she was looking at 29 Tory MPs potentially facing criminal charges for electoral expenses fraud, and if that had happened, the by-elections in those constituencies would have been dicey. That's £170 million quid on an election to protect her majority from investigations into the potentially criminal conduct of tens of her MPs.

I'm not even voting Corbyn - I'm voting Lib Dem, because I think Brexit will be catastrophic for this country on every front, and they are offering an alternative, and we are in a marginal where they could win. But Theresa May seems to combine incompetence, arrogance and meaningless soundbites in about equal measure. That doesn't mean she won't win, of course - look at the President of the United States. But it's a sad indictment of the media in this country and the general calibre of education, if she does.

makeourfuture · 05/06/2017 17:47

But Corbyn is not The Saviour unfortunately.

The thing is now....I think we need to quit looking for saviours. The Tories are just plain not up to it.

We have all had doubts about their morals....or lack of. But lately it has become crystal clear that they are inept as well as morally bankrupt...pawns to the banks and playboys and financiers.

It would be the honourable thing for them just to concede now....for May to resign...she should.

We need to move forward now.

makeourfuture · 05/06/2017 17:49

JC not willing to press the button

Those missiles are impotent now. Sad phallic symbols of a past enemy.

Hillingdon · 05/06/2017 17:50

Didn't JC vote against anti terror laws over 40 times over the last 10 years?

He doesn't come across as a shoot to kill, more like a lets sit down and chat this through sort of guy. Of course with Diane Abbott to advise we will all be fine!

In fact - where is DA? Has someone told her to keep quiet just in case?

prawntail · 05/06/2017 17:51

That was not career defining. It was embarrassing.

Maireadplastic · 05/06/2017 17:52

I'm voting for shortbreadSharon.

gluteustothemaximus · 05/06/2017 17:52

JC would give over complete power to the police to do WHATEVER is needed to keep people safe. That means shoot to kill.

Can't believe the media have spun this. Actually, I can.

Charmageddon · 05/06/2017 17:54

Didn't JC vote against anti terror laws over 40 times over the last 10 years?

Yes, and very proud of that track record too!
Boasted about it often.

Shame he'll have to compromise even more of his 'principles' if he wins.

Are there many principles this man of principle has left to be principled on??!!

Dollymouse · 05/06/2017 17:55

I think the shoot to kill policy objection was more to do with the idea that it is better (were possible) to arrest people to gain intelligence. BUT OBVIOUSLY you would shoot to kill if lives were still in immediate danger. He said that you'd use whatever force necessary.

Elendon · 05/06/2017 17:55

Theresa May has demonstrated that she is a lady for turning. She has more u turns than a u turn thingy.

She will never leave the EU without a deal. Suck it up. Suckers.

moregranny · 05/06/2017 17:58

I truly hope not, I think I will feel suicidal if we have to put up with 5 more years of that :-(

WhingyNinja · 05/06/2017 17:58

Couldn't agree more ahippo.

makeourfuture · 05/06/2017 17:58

He doesn't come across as a shoot to kill

How do you shoot a guy who has just blown himself into a pile of goo?

The enemy we face requires more resources so we can get to them before they do the horrible deed.

nakedscientist · 05/06/2017 17:59

Theresa May seems to combine incompetence, arrogance and meaningless soundbites in about equal measure. That doesn't mean she won't win, of course - look at the President of the United States. But it's a sad indictment of the media in this country and the general calibre of education, if she does

Sleep, I agree with you.

HornyTortoise · 05/06/2017 18:00

The shoot to kill thing was a misquote completely and the BBC even admitted this yet the lie has been ran with in the press.

It really is extraordinary.

But Corbyn is not The Saviour unfortunately.

Nope, pretty sure he is not the saviour, you are right. The current shower of shite isn't working though, time to try a different one and see if that does.

Dollymouse · 05/06/2017 18:01

People do realise that if we are at the point of pressing the button it's all over right?

It's like saying we'll bring back capital punishment for suicide bombers

makeourfuture · 05/06/2017 18:03

People do realise that if we are at the point of pressing the button it's all over right?

Nor is ISIS particularly concerned about Trident.

Different world now.