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I'm starting to find it harder and harder to not say something!

57 replies

Bigblug · 04/06/2017 09:25

My paternal grandparents are right wing foreign hating typically council (although you wouldn't believe It, as they seem to think they're descendents of the queen) now, I understand the animosity to an extent, especially in the aftermath of a terror attack. But thinking back over my childhood, I can't remember a time stupid racist comments weren't made. Now we have Facebook and it's all written in print. 'Send them back' 'they'll never be British' and this isn't just aimed at Muslims, they're very inherently white supremacy. We don't speak. We had an unrelated falling out over my dad's affair and subsequent behaviour towards me and my sister's.
With every post I want to post ahem... 'What about me and my sister's then?' Because the skeleton in our family closet is somehow, my dad ended up being mixed race. Which means that, me, my sister's and my dad are not fully 'British' in their eyes and I can't help that their hateful rhetoric will soon be backtracked once I bring up this point. It's one of those things we've always been aware of, but no.one talks about it. Isn't that nice?

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Chillyegg · 04/06/2017 09:28

Id fimd it very hard not to say something yo be honest.

siblingrevelryagain · 04/06/2017 09:30

We should all try and challenge racist views when and where we can-this would be an appropriate way for you to challenge their twisted view of the world.

Bigblug · 04/06/2017 09:34

I think they're beyond that. I remember questioning it from an early age. Ive been dismissed as a 'loonie leftie' and ridiculed for my views for as long as I can remember.

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Shoxfordian · 04/06/2017 09:36

If you don't speak then why do you still see their Facebook feeds? Unfriend or if you don't want to then unfollow

Can't argue with stupid Grin

Bigblug · 04/06/2017 09:38

I still speak to my aunt. She's nice enough but does share far too many of her parents views. If I delete her, I literally have no link at all to that side of my family and I'm not quite willing to give that up yet :(

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siblingrevelryagain · 04/06/2017 09:43

do you know the cicumsrsnces (from a trusted and accurate source) of how you/your father came to be mixed race? I might have completely not read things correctly, but could it have been from non-consensual sex? This might be the reason it's not openly acknowledged.

hesterton · 04/06/2017 09:46

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happypoobum · 04/06/2017 09:47

I don't understand.

If your father is mixed race then your apparently racist grandmother had a relationship outside of her marriage with a man who was not white? Or as a PP suggested, the conception was not consensual?

You can unfollow your aunt on FB ( and she is just as much a racist if she is sharing this vile shit) without actually unfriending her.

Backt0Black · 04/06/2017 09:51

i think we all hold prejudices of one sort or another....

typically council

Bigblug · 04/06/2017 09:52

Okay yes it may be a stupid generalisation, I was just cross. I'm from a council background too, and currently live in housing association myself. No offence meant, they're just alcoholic football louts (not a generalisation, they actually are).

sibling I have no idea. All I know is, my nan went abroad for a honeymoon and came back pregnant, tried to put my dad in a child's home but my grandad persuaded her to raise him. I've given up on getting any more information than that but no one has alluded to assault.

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IntheBenefitTrap · 04/06/2017 09:52

I was just going to ask what "typically council" was and am pleased to see that others have first. How can you call someone on their ridiculous generalisations when you're just as bad?

pipsqueak25 · 04/06/2017 09:52

it could be an age thing, but i certainly don't agree with their attitude, but it is annoying when people talk about diversity and encouraging immigrants to mix with the local community, but where i live many people speak their own lingo and if you speak to them the look at you blankly or respond and you can hardly understand what they are saying.
i think many people have a problem with that, it should be the thing to at least learn english if you want to live and work here.

QueenLaBeefah · 04/06/2017 09:53

I can't believe that you are moaning about them being prejudice whilst stating they are "typically council".

happypoobum · 04/06/2017 09:55

i think many people have a problem with that, it should be the thing to at least learn english if you want to live and work here.

LOL!!!! Like all the Brits living abroad do you mean??? Grin

Bigblug · 04/06/2017 09:57

Okay calming down, I'm very sorry if I offended anyone with my council comment. It was a stupid comment to make.

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Bigblug · 04/06/2017 09:59

But I would also like to state that I don't generally hold public opinion on being 'typically council' nor do I declare my want for a mass extinction of anyone who lives in council housing. They're not comparable. We all make judgemental comments. I may have misjudged this, but I certainly don't use it to spread hate on a daily basis.

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SweetLuck · 04/06/2017 10:06

So it's OK for you to be offensive because you were cross, but not OK for them to be offensive when they are cross?

pipsqueak25 · 04/06/2017 10:08

happy you should at least attempt to learn the lingo where ever you live, it's lazy and disrespectful not to so yes the brits should learn in the country they reside in - sarcastic Grin

daisychain01 · 04/06/2017 10:08

You're on a hiding to nothing trying to argue with racist idiot comments.

If you have DC then educate them towards tolerance and welcoming diversity so the next generation is better than the previous.

Bigblug · 04/06/2017 10:10

sweet no it doesn't make it okay. But I also acknowledge that it was wrong for me to generalise.

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Theworldisfullofidiots · 04/06/2017 10:11

I've said something to my sisters (older generation) and defriended them from facebook. Hope that helps. When you say nothing they think you agree with them.

fakenamefornow · 04/06/2017 10:21

Unfriend (apart from your aunt).

My family are exactly the same op. They have a hierarchical idea of the world.
White British people at the top, followed by-
White English speaking people (American, Australian etc)
White western European.
And the the real hate starts
Southern European
Eastern European
Black people
Muslim/Asians

They love Teresa May and think the Brexit vote proves they're right and most people agree with them.

I feel for you op and am sorry people are so hate filled and stupid.

daisychain01 · 04/06/2017 10:23

I don't generally hold public opinion on being 'typically council'

What is the Internet classed as, in your view?

Backt0Black · 04/06/2017 10:24

Fair enough OP the council thing was a generalisation, which you've acknowledged (ex council kid here too Smile )

FWIW I'd just interject with increasingly pithy remarks about being surprised at their point of view given multiculturalism within the family. Hmmmmm my DS is mixed race.... I'd likely just go nuclear.... Grin

HoldBackTheRain · 04/06/2017 10:44

alcoholic football louts

This sort of shit was used to discredit Liverpool fans at Hillsborough, who tried help their fellow fans while the majority of the police there did nothing. It took families over 20 years to get some form of justice after they were described as football louts who stole from the dying and urinated on the police - all lies.

So it's OK for you to be pissed off about their racism, but you see nothing wrong as describing them as typically council and alcoholic football louts?

Both as bad as each other, if you can't see that I'm shocked.

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