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To be confused about consent

68 replies

goldfish1102 · 02/06/2017 23:07

Would it still count as an assault if you had consented to some sexual activity but not something specific but the other person did it anyway?

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FreeNiki · 02/06/2017 23:08

yes.

PurpleDaisies · 02/06/2017 23:09

Yes. Why are you asking? Has something happened to you or a friend?

IDoAllMyOwnStunts · 02/06/2017 23:09

Only if the other person had a reasonable belief that you did not consent to that specific thing.

goldfish1102 · 02/06/2017 23:09

Yes, not sure how much I should say though. Thanks.

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missiondecision · 02/06/2017 23:10

Of course, yes it's assault.
Google the cup of tea analogy for consent.

WhooooAmI24601 · 02/06/2017 23:11

Yes, it counts as an assault. Consent isn't a go-ahead for indefinite and changing acts; it's consent at that specific point for that specific act and can be retracted at any point with no ifs, buts or coconuts.

Hope you're ok OP.

goldfish1102 · 02/06/2017 23:11

I have seen that before but don't really like it

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PurpleDaisies · 02/06/2017 23:11

What don't you like about the tea analogy?

goldfish1102 · 02/06/2017 23:12

It's just not the same as sex

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Funnyfarmer · 02/06/2017 23:12

Has someone slipped something where it wasn't supposed to go?

Smeaton · 02/06/2017 23:14

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YogiYoni · 02/06/2017 23:14

Yes. It's still assault.

Have you posted about this before? There was a similar thread a few weeks ago and the overwhelming response was to tell the OP that what had happened to her was absolutely wrong. If you're that OP, I (still) believe you and I hope you're okay.

goldfish1102 · 02/06/2017 23:14

Yes; to put it diplomatically.

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fifteenfortytwo · 02/06/2017 23:14

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goldfish1102 · 02/06/2017 23:14

No that wasn't me.

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YogiYoni · 02/06/2017 23:15

Are you okay? Can we help at all?

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 02/06/2017 23:16

Consent isn't a one time thing. Consenting to one act isn't consent for anything else. Consent can also be withdrawn. The only issue is if your partner had a reasonable belief that consent did exist. If you had made it clear that there was no consent for a particular act then it is an assault.

missiondecision · 02/06/2017 23:16

Why don't you like it?
It's meant to be simple to focus on the serious issue of whether you want to accept what is on offer or not.
I hope you are ok .

PidgeonSpray · 02/06/2017 23:17

Depends if the defendant had reasonable belief that the victim did actually consent. So depends very much on the specifics of what was said / communicated. Hope you are ok

Funnyfarmer · 02/06/2017 23:18

I think I've got a fair idea what's happened. If it is what I think has happened it's horrendous!
People see it on porn all the time and think it's acceptable. It's not!
It's painful and violating.

goldfish1102 · 02/06/2017 23:19

He was told it hurt and please stop.

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 02/06/2017 23:19

Sorry my first sentence isn't very clear - what I mean is you don't just consent once, it is an ongoing process and so consent is specific not blanket.

WhooooAmI24601 · 02/06/2017 23:20

The minute you said "stop" was the minute it became an assault, frankly.

YogiYoni · 02/06/2017 23:20

At the point you said 'stop', you withdrew your consent and he should have stopped.

Are you safe right now?

HerOtherHalf · 02/06/2017 23:20

If you feel the need to question it then the answer is almost certainly yes. Consent is not a blank cheque. It comes with implied trust and the entirely reasonable expectation of respect.

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