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'But what about Syria'. Would I be unreasonable to tell this woman to go and fuck herself?

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Runny · 24/05/2017 08:38

I have a Facebook friend who I think it's fair to say has some very extreme political views that she's not afraid to air. Normally I think live and let live, but she really gets her knickers in a knot over things like the Western bombings of Syria, refugees, Israel etc. I should say I'm also against the bombings in Syria and have donated to refugee charities.

Since the Paris terror attacks she's become very vocal about how Western media organisations ignore the terror attacks that happen in the Middle East, lots of 'why don't we change our FB profile pics to Palestinian flags' and the like. I let that go, even though I think she's talking out of her arse and it's blatantly obvious why our media focus on stuff happening in Europe. Since then with every terror attack that's happened she's posted similar stuff, even when the Westminster attacks happened the other week. This person lives in Central London so it bloody happened on her died doorstep and she was still at it even then!

Then yesterday arrived, my feed was full of comments about how awful and horrific the events in Manchester were. She was uncharacterstically quiet for most of the day, then late afternoon she posts a status 'I weep for the children, children everywhere'. What followed was a load of guff implying it was a 'false flag' designed to rig the election in the Tories favour. I hate the Tories as much as the next person, but come on that's just lunacy!

She's been at it most of the night, posts about fucking Syria, don't forget about Syria. Seriously, there's a time and a place for her crack pot opinions, and I really want to comment telling her she's a fucking insensitive idiot for spouting this now. WIBU to do this? She seems to have a complete empathy bypass. I'm so angry reading her posts, she posts this guff just hours after children have been blown to bits at a pop concert. What the hell is wrong with her?

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Fliptophead · 24/05/2017 09:37

Ignoring those facts is allowing terrorism to rise in this country.

silkybear · 24/05/2017 09:39

Lady i meant the media more than individuals, i didnt mean it to come across as insensitive at all

needtogiveitablow · 24/05/2017 09:40

In all honesty you are the one coming across as U, the incident was horrific, beyond reprehensible however your "friend" is right, all over the world children are killed on a daily basis going about their daily business and all as a result of a few peoples twisted version of a religion. Her timing is off however children in Syria deserve our thoughts just as much - they didn't ask to be born in the middle of a war zone and shouldn't be ignored as a result of living in "fucking Syria". Sorry to say it but I feel the tone of your post paints you in a worse light than her! The world is a particularly messed up place - we could all do with being a bit kinder and more understanding of each other rather than looking for reasons to cause further divisions (apologies for sounding happy clappy - I'm usually anti-social and miserable!)

Sexstarvedredhead · 24/05/2017 09:40

So you started this to raise the anti worldwide thinking. Hmm

YoloSwaggins · 24/05/2017 09:40

It is fair to say if we keep bombing the middle east, killing civilians, displacing families, that some will end up in the UK and some will have an axe to grind. What is annoying is the way people go on about UK deaths when there have been millions killed elsewhere, it smacks of hypocrisy and the sentiment that their children are less important. Maybe her timing could be better, and obviously I have nothing but sympathy for the victims, but she is correct. False flags do exist look up historical military data such as operation northwoods.

Agree 100%. So many people are in denial that terrorist attacks in the West are a direct result of the West's meddling in the Middle East.

Killdora · 24/05/2017 09:43

It is fair to say if we keep bombing the middle east, killing civilians, displacing families, that some will end up in the UK and some will have an axe to grind

Oh so it was a good idea when people were saying 'probably should t let them in here'.

Hmm

Is that what you are trying to say?

I'm not disagreeing that the war is wrong. I'm disagreeing with blaming your average person for not caring about Syria enough for their children dying.

mothertruck3r · 24/05/2017 09:44

How are we turning a blind eye to Syria? If we intervene we are imperialists who bomb children and radicalize people. If we don't intervene we are isolationists who don't care about Syrian children and radicalize people. People in the UK (most of whom have absolutely no ties to the Middle East) have given millions of pounds in charity to Syria. The Government through our taxes gives millions if not billions of pounds in aid to various Arab countries. The whole of Europe has taken in hundreds of thousands of refugees. How the hell are we turning a blind eye? What are we supposed to do? Should a British child be die every time a Syrian child dies? Would that make things fair and equal??? I thought the concept of "an eye for an eye" was outdated and morally repugnant?

Bluntness100 · 24/05/2017 09:44

Attention seeking and low IQ. To use the deaths of people, children in Manchester and insinuate it's some form of political play is beyond abhorrent.

Unfriend her. Unfriend anyone like her. Real people were murdered. Children were murdered. No one should forget that.

LittleWingSoul · 24/05/2017 09:44

posts about fucking syria Hmm

YABU OP

Runny · 24/05/2017 09:44

We all know that our interference in the Middle East is what has given way to Isis, but there really is a time and a place to post those viewpoints and yesterday wasn't it. It was highly inappropriate.

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MorrisZapp · 24/05/2017 09:47

Agree with mothertruckr. If we ignore the civil war in Syria were standing by and doing nothing, if we try to take action we're meddling cultural imperialists.

What should we actually be doing?

JamieXeed74 · 24/05/2017 09:49

We all know that our interference in the Middle East is what has given way to Isis No we don't know that.

Are you saying it would have been better to let evil dictators rule middle Eastern countries killing children and suppressing populations just so terrorists dont come to the west?

Greyponcho · 24/05/2017 09:49

What about the remarks that it was a 'false flag'? That is probably the most disgusting comment of the lot. There is no such thing as a 'false flag' and anyone who thinks there is needs their head examining.

You're a bit of a GF aren't you OP?

The consensus here is that no life is worth more than another, the fb friend has a point, but you're repeatedly flagging this point up.
What are you hoping to achieve with this thread - to get us all to agree with you..?

NavyandWhite · 24/05/2017 09:51

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JuicyStrawberry · 24/05/2017 09:51

YANBU

Runny · 24/05/2017 09:52

What the hell is GF?

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needtogiveitablow · 24/05/2017 09:53

"gets her knickers in a knot"
"she's talking out of her arse"
"That's just lunacy"
"Load of guff"
"Crackpot opinions"

It seems your issue isn't just her timing (which I agree isn't great btw)!

lessworriedaboutthecat · 24/05/2017 09:53

chocolateraisin09 if continue to let large numbers refugee's i.e. young Muslim men from some of the most backward and barbaric countries in the world then this will be happening every day.

silkybear the bombers family came to Britain to claim asylum from Colonel Gaddafi. We then removed the awful tyrant they fled from at which point the rest of his "conservative" family then returned to an area of Libya under Daesh control leaving him to blow himself up at a concert.

Tomorrowillbeachicken · 24/05/2017 09:53

I'd unfriendly too tbh

faithinthesound · 24/05/2017 09:55

Tell her that it isn't the Olympics of Suffering, and that the people who are mourning loved ones right there tonight are in enough pain without making them feel guilty about things they have no control over on another continent.

Runny · 24/05/2017 09:55

If having an strong opinion makes me a 'goady fucker' then so be it.

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sticklebrix · 24/05/2017 09:55

I agree with some of her views. But yesterday wasn't the time to air them.

Tiredemma · 24/05/2017 09:59

A lady in the canteen yesterday made reference to 'this type of stuff happening everyday in Syria and no one bats an eyelid'.

Of course in general this is the case but I thought it was incredibly insensitive to say this at that particular time.

herethereandeverywhere · 24/05/2017 10:02

Agree with mothertruckr. If we ignore the civil war in Syria were standing by and doing nothing, if we try to take action we're meddling cultural imperialists.

^this. What are we to do? Just keep reminding people of the dead Syrian kids?

It is absolutely understandable that people living in peace time in a Western country will be more horrified by the slaughter of children attending a pop concert in the UK than they will be by children bombed by Isis or UK/US drone strike in a war zone. It's about the relatability of the event and the likelihood of it happening, not the value of human/child life.

And I despair of this false flag nonsense. Hold those in charge to account but don't create fairy stories that they colluded. It is incredibly disrespectful to the dead and injured.

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