so an attack is imminent

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AIBU to be a little freaked, living in London?

"Are you seriously suggesting this was a "false flag" operation?

Seriously?"

No of course not, i am responding to pp who suggested it might be. Why do you wilfully misinterpret my post?

If anything at all was targeted in terms of timing it would be due to external actors such as ISIS. There may or may not be a reason why this attack took place at this point in time in terms of the perpetrators' political motives.

And UKIP are said to be resuming their campaign tomorrow. By releasing their stupid manifesto.

I also dont think people should be concerned about the army being called in. Doesn't mean the police aren't doing a good enough job, it just means they need a bit of help. The army knows exactly what to look for given they do it for months at a time on checkpoints etc. They're trained to read the subtle behaviour of potential terrorists that the police may otherwise miss.

I don't think UKIP will get anywhere. Nuttall couldn't even win a by-election in the 'Brexit capital of England'. And Farage has given up trying to get a seat after 7 attempts.

typical Labour Corbyn butt kisser.

As opposed to a typical Tory May butt kisser?

All the cynical people aka Labour supporters who are saying TM is using this for her own political gains...go back in your hole

PuckeredAhole I'm a leftie and I don't think this at all. In fact I'm a bit pissed off that both sides appear to be using a situation where a monster put a nail bomb amongst children for their own political gain.

i'll admit I'm scared.. DP's son is travelling to London for the weekend with a relative, he's only 9 and I hate the thought of him going but a) I'm powerless to stop him as it's not my decision to make and b) we have to carry on as normal but it's not going to stop me worrying like hell!

Just to repeat, TM does not change the terrorism threat levels: MI5 and JTAC do

And I would put my life savings on the date being chosen as it was the anniversary of the murder of Lee Rigby, not because of anything to do with the general election

It's so sad how some people are having a go at so called liberals and the left and how it's all our fault for trying to promote an open, free and tolerant society. Because the concert was all that, it was fun and people felt free to enjoy themselves and enjoy life, Ariana has a global fan base not a protectionist US only audience.

I must admit I found Ariana's mum's reaction quite heartwarming.

www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/manchester-explosion-ariana-grande-concert-bomb-manchester-arena-mum-young-fans-to-safety-backstage-a7752516.html

This mother's love and selflessness.... quite the opposite of that hatful little male terrorist whose ego resulted in the killing of innocents young people.

How does having armed police and soldiers on the streets protect people from suicide bombers?

Would you prefer there to be no presence? Absolutely nothing done at all to reassure people? Then when it happens again, or some nutter goes berserk with a knife, we can all say "well, there was no security - where are all the police/guards?". Bit of a daft comment, that. What would you suggest they do then, instead of be on the ground?

They are better trained than you and I to determine who's a threat and who isn't.

Are you seriously suggesting this was a "false flag" operation?

Agree, It's terrible when people are so embroiled in their own politics that something as awful as mass murder is just another event for them , that they see people's deaths as nothing more than a political play that might damage what they want politically. I think I understand now why some people will excuse, justify or deny corbyns terrorist sympathies.😔

Better than Corbyn would be. I think he's crawled out of his hole only once since the attack
He was in Manchester yesterday hardly hiding in a hole

Gosh some very prickly comments. Why such a hostile and slightly hysterical tone tatty?

We'd better hope they know what they are doing. I did misread about the tanks though, apparently they were stationed at Heathrow airport in 2003. I have nothing against well trained soldiers in the street but fail to see how they can protect soft targets.

Bluntness100 Chinese whispers? Not sure which poster has suggested that this was planned.

"I think I understand now why some people will excuse, justify or deny corbyns terrorist sympathies."

Do you not see the irony in your post? You yourself are politicising this by attacking Corbyn in relation to the Manchester attack.

I will step away from the keyboard now as I feel it is disrespectful to the victims of terror to engage in petty online pickles with strangers on the Internet.

I only came here to say that this terror attack seems well planned and that I worry about the extend of it. And that it is fearsome that there are people in this world who will go to great length to destroy other people's happiness and kill indiscriminately.

The reason this happened now is because the cunt is just a few days home from Libya.

I know statistically it's very unlikely I will be caught up - especially since I've been caught up twice before and the second time I was one of the victims directly affected in a city-wide event that left me homeless and lucky to be alive, so it feels very real to me. Having said that, DH also did win the lottery so maybe I'm just one of those people who has weird things happen to them

I work in a known target area and we have security alerts and controlled explosions happen from time to time, so I do feel my anxiety is realistic.

For me it's more frightening to think about because of the sheer terror I've felt before and the chaos - especially given that the second time there were no emergency services to call. I don't feel ashamed that I was afraid of leaving my 4 yr old DS to travel across London today. I wouldn't have cancelled because I know people would judge me but I'm certainly not sitting here feeling perfectly calm about it all. It's ok to feel fear but I think we have to try and transfer that into vigilance and making sure we know how to respond in those situations.

Some of my fb friends have suggested this was planned by TM too and I could really do without that sort of crap tbh

"Some of my fb friends have suggested this was planned by TM too"

That is just plain gullible or wilfully obtuse.

If anything this shows that we need to work with Europe, not in isolation, we face the same problems as other European countries in terms of fighting terrorism. We share the same values as our European neighbours in terms of personal freedom, the rule of law equal opportunities, women's rights, democracy. I have nothing against Muslims but culturally we are closer to European countries that share a similar Christian history but that are also largely areligious and tolerant.

There have been so many attacks in European countries in recent months as well as on international targets in Istanbul. This is not going away is it?

In Europe we stand united. Brexit will isolate and weaken us and has achieved nothing for us in terms of national security.

I lived and worked in London during the 1980s so I remember the IRA threat. It didn't stop my friends and me exploring central London on a weekly basis.

Now I work in Manchester. I commute in every day to Victoria, the station over which the Arena sits. I go to gigs at the Arena with my DS, and we normally leave before the end of the show so we can run downstairs for the last train. This horrendous attack won't change my day-to-day life, but in future, when we leave a gig we'll leave via the open fire exits rather than the main entrance but we'll have to leave even earlier.

Yesterday, Manchester was full of police walking round, sitting in cars, driving around, everywhere. The city was also full of people making the most of the lovely weather: sitting in Piccadilly Gardens, outside the town hall, outside bars and cafes. There may have been fear and anxiety but Manchester was, for the most part, just getting on with being Manchester.

for the most part, just getting on with being Manchester.

Yeh, some bloke nicked my bike...

/Too soon?

albadross
You clearly know some nutters

If there had been armed Police at the stadium it wouldn't have stopped him detonating the bomb in the foyer. Or are they just going to shoot anyone who looks like they might be a suicide bomber.

The son of Jeremy Corbyn's election strategist has hinted that the timing was terribly "convenient" for TM

The son of Jeremy Corbyn's election strategist has hinted that the timing was terribly "convenient" for TM

Wow