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DH and his emotionless crap

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mumto2two · 22/05/2017 09:56

Am feeling so upset about this, so I'm sorry if I ramble.
DH has always had issues with communication, emotional or otherwise, and nearly 2 years ago I discovered he had been having an affair with a much younger work colleague, for over 18 months.
Our DD has multiple health issues and while we had been in and out of hospital, he was often away on business, having a whale of a time with her. He had been distant for years and I had tried so hard to understand, and when he started going out frequently after work, he would snap that he was doing something for himself for a change, seeing his 'friends' and he was entitled to. He treated me awfully, and it broke my heart to see him act so cruelly. The excuse he gave me when I discovered who his 'friends' really were, was that he assumed I just knew anyway !
His emotionlessness can be startling sometimes, and I know his controlling mother has played a big part towards the issues he has.
Much as it hurt, we decided to try again for the sake of our family, and he seemed such a broken man. We vowed to make it work, and things have ticked along since. We have not once mentioned this woman again, and she left the company soon after. However, I am still frustrated by his lack of emotional connection, and not just with me, I mean with everyone, and everything. He doesn't keep in touch with people, never sees friends, has no hobbies, does no exercise or sport, has no interest in our home and the state it has become, and I feel like I am the proverbial nag, anytime I try to broach it. And of course it upsets me, that the only person he seems to have made any effort with in all our time together, has been her. He suddenly seemed more energetic and alive, but of course, we all know why.
His job is stressful and he works long days, so his excuse is always that he has no time, but of course he did make time for her..and in fact, a lot of time.
This situation has rumbled along for some time, and the straw that seems to be breaking the camels back is this...
Our eldest daughter needed to arrange a week's work experience for 6th form, and it was booked at his company 4 months ago, due to start in a week. As it's over an hours drive, she would travel in and out with him. Last night in conversation, he suddenly remembered he had to be abroad with work that week, and she would have to find her own way or cancel her work experience. The only way she can get there, would involve a 45 min bus ride and 2 trains and would take her 2.5 hours at least.
He just shrugged and said there was nothing he could do. And he thinks I am being ridiculous for being upset. What's even more infuriating, is that he has known for sometime, and true to past communication form, failed to tell us. DD is so upset, and DH simply hung up on me and is refusing to answer my calls. He is sick of me and my nagging and then went on to say that he was being viewed as unreliable at work because of all the times our younger DD has been in hospital...
I'm just sat here reeling, and I can't even speak to him because once he decides he doesn't want to communicate, then that is it. He simply cuts you off.
Feel so low about everything, I know his work is more important, but it's the lack of communication and his attitude towards it that is hard to take. What do others think?
I'm sorry for the long ramble..

OP posts:
bruffian · 22/05/2017 12:15

I've read a lot of these type of things on mumsnet over the years.

LTB.

He truly sounds horrible. Poor you and your dds Sad

bruffian · 22/05/2017 12:16

Can you drive your dd in?

just to reiterate, he sounds like a total c**t

please don't be a victim

SleepWhatSleep1 · 22/05/2017 12:20

I said ltb upthread - but just had a thought re your dd - as he has suddenly such an important job how about he stumps up for taxis for your dd - after all he is letting her down

Badbadbird · 22/05/2017 12:22

Do both of you a favour and get rid of him, he should have been gone after the affair.

SuperPug · 22/05/2017 12:24

For me, this is worse than arguing...
He clearly doesn't give a toss about his kids either and it seems you would be so much happier without him. He's the "dead weight" here, that you're all dragging along and creating utter misery.
I'm sure he will be very happy with another woman when she sees what he's like, beyind the excitement of an initial romance.

mumto2two · 22/05/2017 12:35

I hate to acknowledge it to myself, but I know you are probably right.
There is a disconnect that has always puzzled me. He is such a 'nice' placid easygoing person, that is the persona that everybody sees, but his inner self sometimes seems empty and soulless, and his apparent kindness sits oddly with the ways he seems to lack emotional empathy.
He grew up with a very controlling over bearing mother, was the perfect golden child son, excelled at school and towed the line, then literally did a moonlight flit abroad, without telling his parents what he had planned. It feels like he represses a lot, toes the line for a time, and then rebels...acts in a way which seems totally disconnected with everything. It is very hard to understand.

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blankface · 22/05/2017 12:38

Does he have enough to pay for your daughter to have a taxi each way so she can complete her work experience?

If not, he should find someone suitable from his firm who can give your daughter a lift and stick to reasonable hours for her work experience. He's caused the problem, he should fix it.

How does he cope with problem solution at work?

ImperialBlether · 22/05/2017 12:42

Ugh he sounds horrible. Why on earth do you want to stay with him?

I would make sure your daughter does that placement, no matter how much it costs. How much is a taxi? How much would a Premier Inn nearby cost, or a B&B?

I'm getting sick of saying LTB on here but really, so many people are living with such awful men, there's nothing else to say.

sadsquid · 22/05/2017 12:44

It sounds to me like he is nice for an easy life, because being nice works well - people are nice back, everything ticks along - and then ruthless when he wants something different. I used to have a boss a bit like that - pleasant until it didn't suit him to be pleasant. Gives me the shivers if I'm honest with you.

bruffian · 22/05/2017 12:44

He likes to be in control. The 'flits' and affairs are a way of demonstrating that he can do exactly as he pleases, thank you very much

NC1nightstand · 22/05/2017 12:48

As a child he had to play the role of golden child and probably felt the whole family dynamic would tumble down if he expressed himself as he really wanted/needed to. But things can only stay buried for so long.
It really sounds like he has very complicated problems with being honest, even to himself. Really not your problem, never has been.
It's obvious he doesn't want your daughter to do her work experience at his workplace. Why? What would she discover? Why don't you call his bluff, say a friend is heading in the same direction and her parent can take both of them.
I rarely say this but LTB. Take the great advice other posters have given, ducks in a row first, very important in this case and then off into the sunset for your better life!

AnyFucker · 22/05/2017 12:49

I wouldn't call this is a marriage

bruffian · 22/05/2017 12:50

Yes I agree he doesn't want your dd to go there

GeekLove · 22/05/2017 12:53

It takes two to save a marriage - he isn't playing. But I don't think he's going to make it easy. Even so, it will be better than what you are in right now.
In my opinion if your DP/DH is not your comrade and ally - then there is no relationship.

peaceout · 22/05/2017 12:53

Humour him for now and use your mental energy to make a plan to divorce him
Take him to the fuckjng cleaners

AppleOfMyEye10 · 22/05/2017 12:54

I feel so sorry for your poor Dd. How awful just to drop her like that and have no care about it. Op he is a burden to yourll, you should seriously consider leaving him.

PovertyPain · 22/05/2017 13:16

Sorry, op, but I think he's screwing someone in work and he's deliberately made it impossible for your DC to attend. He is making sure she doesn't find out. Like a previous poster suggested I would tell him she can get a lift with a friend and watch his reaction, but do it face to face, not over the phone.

Agerbilatemycardigan · 22/05/2017 13:16

Leaving him will be like lancing a boil. Hard to do initially, but the relief is ultimately worth it.

AlwaysCcakeTime · 22/05/2017 13:23

Fucking Arse

LTB

blackteasplease · 22/05/2017 13:27

This is disgusting and I agree he sounds like a sociopath. You should definitely LTB.

In the immediate term he can pay for your DD to get a taxi for her work experience and he can arrange a specific person to look after her.

TheHodgeoftheHedge · 22/05/2017 13:28

The excuse he gave me when I discovered who his 'friends' really were, was that he assumed I just knew anyway !

That is one of the most horrific and epic examples of gaslighting I've seen for a while. Please listen to the others - at best he's an utterly selfish, gaslighting, cheating shit. At the worst he's an utter sociopath.
Either way, you and your children are better off without him in your lives.

Picklepickle123 · 22/05/2017 13:29

Sorry OP, it sounds like a really difficult situation to be in. As a PP has already said, it takes two to save a marriage - if he's not interested in counselling or making changes to improve the issues that you're facing, unfortunately it seems that you may have to start facing into the fact that he's in a marriage of convenience. Are you okay with that? If not, start making your financial arrangements, and see a few solicitors.

Give yourself some time to reflect, and be honest with what he truly brings to your marriage and to your family life. You may even find it useful to have some counselling yourself? Even with his upbringing, you can't expect yourself and your DC to compensate for DH's behaviours, especially if he doesn't address them himself.

Many hugs, I know the next few weeks will be tough Flowers

TheHodgeoftheHedge · 22/05/2017 13:29

ps I think @PovertyPaint is on to something there

PlaiceMarking · 22/05/2017 13:43

Please LTB. Really, you're life will e so much happier without him dragging you down.

ChippyTea16 · 22/05/2017 13:52

and you are with him because...?

Seriously why would you stay with someone who treats you like this? What a selfish prick he is.

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