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lionheart · 19/05/2017 17:33

Watch and listen.

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cozietoesie · 23/05/2017 23:39

I believe that Ron Dermer was putting his head in his hands/something similar before correcting the gesture.

lionheart · 23/05/2017 23:43

That's also interesting, illegitimate.

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GingerIvy · 23/05/2017 23:52

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WASHINGTON (@AP) -- Senate intelligence committee to subpoena two of former national security adviser Mike Flynn's businesses.

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Caroline O. Retweeted Evan Rosenfeld
This is a big deal. As Senate Intel Cmte co-chairman @MarkWarner just confirmed on @MSNBC, businesses cannot plead the 5th...!

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 23/05/2017 23:53

Wow! There were 963 fatal police shootings in the US last year. There is a Washington Post page for 2016 linking to a database here.

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 23/05/2017 23:58

Contrasted with 64 police shooting fatalities in the UK between 1990-2017 relevant Inquest page.

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TheClaws · 24/05/2017 00:16

A good summary of the Senate Intel hearings today (The Hill):

thehill.com/policy/national-security/334846-five-takeaways-from-a-busy-day-of-russia-hearings

Lweji · 24/05/2017 00:23

Contrasted with 64 police shooting fatalities in the UK between 1990-2017

It must help that most police officers in the UK don't carry guns. And those who do have special training.

Lweji · 24/05/2017 00:27

At least Colbert won't be taken out the air. :)

thehill.com/policy/technology/334804-fcc-wont-take-action-against-colbert-over-trump-joke

AcrossthePond55 · 24/05/2017 01:38

Thanks for the info hedge. You're right, we're used to seeing the Natl Guard being called out for natural disasters and civil unrest. But even that is pretty rare as the local and state police forces usually handle things.

As far as the link to police fatalities posted by Mortificado, people need to remember that the US is much bigger than the UK and there are local, state, and federal law enforcement agencies. It's estimated that as of 2008 there were over 1.1 million law enforcement personnel in the US. The current number is probably a bit higher as Obama funded more LEOs. For comparison, there are a total of approx 124,000 LEOs in the UK.

The officers who fired fatal shots represent .087% of total personnel based on that 2008 number. And the database linked to doesn't differentiate between justified and unjustified fatalities. Of course, even one unjustified shooting is one too many and officers using excessive or lethal force when it's not justified should face legal repercussions.

I have to admit, it's a touchy subject for me. I know two officers who were shot and killed in the line of duty. Neither had drawn their weapon.

TheClaws · 24/05/2017 01:52

Not sure if this has been noted already - but Trump's friend, hard-line Phillipines President Duerte, has declared martial law in part of the country.

AFP news agency‏Verified account @AFP 9h9 hours ago
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#BREAKING Philippine president declares martial law on southern island: spokesman

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#UPDATE Duterte declares martial law in southern Philippines

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 24/05/2017 06:01

The Hill @thehill
Graham: Trump's proposed State Department cuts would create "a lot of Benghazis" t.co/ZaYK7fATrZ?amp=1

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 24/05/2017 06:03

The Hill @thehill
Obama vows eternal support for UK after Manchester attack t.co/ojACKYZTrI?amp=1

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 24/05/2017 06:05

Bradd Jaffy @BraddJaffy
“thunderbolt of resistance” — Democrat wins NY assembly special election in heavily GOP district Trump won by 23 pts

Bradd Jaffy @BraddJaffy
Dems also pulled off an upset in the NH GOP stronghold of Wolfeboro—a district where no Democrat had ever won before t.co/k0Je0HJ5qH?amp=1

TheNorthWestPawsage · 24/05/2017 07:33

Heartening news to hear of the Dems wins in 2 GOP districts. Small but significant steps I hope! Thanks Pain

Lweji · 24/05/2017 07:56

It's somewhat off topic but I meant to post this weeks ago.

It contrasts with lower health funds and more policing and wall funding politics from Trump and GOP.

This is what my country has done in relation to drugs and things got much better.

m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1790171014357082&id=354522044588660

Golondrina · 24/05/2017 08:40

I lived for a year in Lisbon in 1998/9 and there were a lot of drugs. That article looks really interesting. Have read some very interesting stuff about the left wing anti austerity government in Portugal and its economic success too.

Lweji · 24/05/2017 09:14

When Obama left, they were looking into that type of strategy. Now Trump is in with his promises to tackle the drug problems but offering nothing more than a wall and tougher police. Sad

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 24/05/2017 09:57

Apologies if this has been posted on here already:

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/23/trump-administration-manchester-bomber-name-leak?CMP=twt_gu

US leak of Manchester attacker's name strikes new blow to intelligence sharing

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 24/05/2017 09:58

Gah, stray photo there - not sure where that's come from.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 24/05/2017 10:02

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Ex-Ukip MEP @Janice4Brexit demands return of death penalty following suicide bomb attack in Manchester

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Don't think that'll do much to deter a suicide bomber.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 24/05/2017 10:05

Zoe Tillman‏Verified account @ZoeTillman 7h7 hours ago
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Trump is reportedly hiring NY lawyer Marc Kasowitz as his private attorney in the Russia probe. They go way back
www.buzzfeed.com/zoetillman/trump-is-reportedly-hiring-his-longtime-go-to-lawyer-as?utm_term=.grZR1xM2Ge#.veRvk9eZNX

Lweji · 24/05/2017 10:07

US leak of Manchester attacker's name strikes new blow to intelligence sharing

Are there no limits to their incompetence?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 24/05/2017 10:08

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How Steve Mnuchin is filling top Treasury jobs without Senate confirmation

www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-05-23/mnuchin-fills-top-jobs-at-treasury-by-avoiding-senate-scrutiny?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 24/05/2017 10:10

www.sltrib.com/home/5319357-155/irans-president-criticizes-us-after-trumps

Iran president waiting for White House ‘to become stable intellectually’

Tehran, Iran • Iran's newly re-elected President Hassan Rouhani took barbed swipes Monday at the U.S. and its ally Saudi Arabia, hitting back at both a day after President Donald Trump used his first foreign trip to the kingdom to call for further isolation of Iran.

The 68-year-old cleric, a political moderate who secured a resounding victory over a hard-line opponent, called relations with the United States "a curvy road" even as he touted the 2015 nuclear accord Iran secured with the Obama administration and other world powers as a "win-win" agreement.

He was less flattering in his assessment of the Trump administration. Rouhani said that Iranians are "waiting for this government to become stable intellectually" and that "hopefully, things will settle down ... so we could pass more accurate judgments."

Lweji · 24/05/2017 10:11

Good summary of how the swamp is being swamped with swamp creatures.

Seth Meyers check in.

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