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lionheart · 19/05/2017 17:33

Watch and listen.

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lionheart · 22/05/2017 12:32

More details coming to light on Trump-Russian meetings (Reuters).

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lionheart · 22/05/2017 12:53

www.theroot.com/they-should-be-lynched-miss-lawmaker-karl-oliver-on-l-1795420214

It just keeps coming.

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Orlantina · 22/05/2017 13:03

He's after Iran again....

Gumpendorf · 22/05/2017 13:22

I think that's much the easiest way out - much simpler than impeachment.

Huge danger in this. POTUS's behaviour isn't the only problem. It would still leave the white supremacists in power, and reward the GOP for colluding with Russia. Donald's was right, we need to 'drain the swamp' and properly this time.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/05/2017 13:31

That's hideous lionheart. It's so corrupt and while I'm grateful it's in such an in-your-face way that it's not being unnoticed, it is still depressing that despite being noticed nothing appears to be being done about it.

And worse still, there are people who are so loyal to their party that they won't even see this as being wrong. Where on earth do we go from here?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/05/2017 13:51

Russia meeting revelation could trigger obstruction investigation

www.politico.com/story/2017/05/20/trump-russia-meeting-obstruction-investigation-238639?lo=ap_a1

cozietoesie · 22/05/2017 14:36

Ho Hum. Let's see if this works for them.

WH moves to block ethics inquiry on ex-lobbyists

GingerIvy · 22/05/2017 14:56

Kyle Griffin‏Verified account @kylegriffin1 16m16 minutes ago
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AP Source: Michael Flynn to decline Senate Intel committee subpoena, invoke 5th Amendment later today.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/05/2017 15:00

Wtf

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BREAKING: Turkey summons US ambassador to protest 'aggressive' action against Turkish bodyguards in Washington.

lionheart · 22/05/2017 15:00

Oh. Wonder what happens next.

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GingerIvy · 22/05/2017 15:01

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Not a cost-free decision for Flynn to take the 5th, given further hit to reputation & earnings potential. Alternative must've been untenable

And yes, earnings potential has to be important to him, or why else take Russian & Turkish money that would so obviously cause problems.

GingerIvy · 22/05/2017 15:02

Speculation that Flynn is either holding out for a pardon from Trump or a deal from FBI.

GingerIvy · 22/05/2017 15:05

Reuters Top News‏Verified account @Reuters 4m4 minutes ago
Rouhani says Iran's ballistic missile program will continue: TV reut.rs/2q9lSuH

GingerIvy · 22/05/2017 15:06

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McMaster: "I don't remember exactly what the president said" to Russians in Oval. #thisweek

They're circling the wagons and covering up for each other now.

cozietoesie · 22/05/2017 15:06

So he can still be asked to testify but has to invoke the 5th in response to each question put to him?

cozietoesie · 22/05/2017 15:08

And Yes. It wouldn't be cost-free at all.

AcrossthePond55 · 22/05/2017 15:09

Well, back to the 'real world' for me later today. I was hoping that when I 'came in from the woods'🕵🏼 things would have progressed a bit further. Sigh

Flynn invoking the 5th. I think he's looking for a 'deal'. I know he's been turned down for immunity before, but if he really has the 'smoking gun' I have a feeling a deal will be made. A couple of the Watergate conspirators did deals that way. They may not 'need' Flynn now, that doesn't mean they won't 'need' him later.

Time to start packing up the caravan for our return to what passes as 'civilization' in 'Trump's America'. Gag.

cozietoesie · 22/05/2017 15:11

Never mind, Across. Time for Ginis probably early today. Wink

cozietoesie · 22/05/2017 15:14

Taking the 5th is supposed to mean that you simply avoid answering a question and that there should be no presumption of 'guilt' either way. I've never found that to be the case. Wink

GingerIvy · 22/05/2017 15:17

By the way, I swear I saw something earlier today that said Tim Farron was a-okay with fox hunting and making it legal again. What's that about????

GingerIvy · 22/05/2017 15:17

The Independent‏Verified account @Independent 1m1 minute ago
Donald Trump proposes taking millions off of food stamps ind.pn/2qOprrd

cozietoesie · 22/05/2017 15:20

'Cuts to farm programmes'? They surely can't really mean these budget proposals.

lionheart · 22/05/2017 15:24

The questions could be deadly.

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GingerIvy · 22/05/2017 15:26

Kyle Griffin‏Verified account @kylegriffin1 13s13 seconds ago
Supreme Court strikes down North Carolina maps for Congress, says district lines warped by racial bias
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GingerIvy · 22/05/2017 15:28

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The latest North Korean missile test represented significant technical advances, South Korean officials say nyti.ms/2r94TNt