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lionheart · 19/05/2017 17:33

Watch and listen.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/05/2017 07:22

rousette I think you might be right. Muslims come in two flavours don't you know - the poor bad muslamisists must be stopped but the rich good ones can give us lots of money for weapons that will create even more chaos and deaths.

CaveMum · 22/05/2017 07:32

This has popped up on Twitter. It is allegedly Trump's Presidential Rider!

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SanFranBear · 22/05/2017 07:36

Haha - framed maps of the electoral college win Grin

Roussette · 22/05/2017 07:39

Ys pain and DT worships at the altar of money and that permeates every aspect of every thing that he does. He once said "you have to be wealthy to be great" which of course eliminates a lot of Americans. When he talks about himself, it's all based on money, his success, how much he's made 'the billionaire Donald Trump'. He has no other way of judging himself

He talks of the Wall and making Mexico pay for it (money again) and he's now reduced foreign policy to money. He might want 'world peace' and think he's going to sort that, but arms deals, donations and $$$ is really what it's all about. He wants to be closer to Saudi to extract money from them, they've pledged to fund his infrastructure plans. No talk of human rights in Saudi... no money in that...

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/05/2017 07:59

Jim Acosta @Acosta
Steve Bannon left the POTUS foreign trip last night so he could be back at WH Monday morning, we are told.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/05/2017 08:01

I think priebus also left after being there one day. Wonder what's happening that necessitates them all going back earlier than planned

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/05/2017 08:06

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The Hill @thehill
Oversight chairman expects to meet with Comey on Monday

thehill.com/homenews/house/334464-chaffetz-thinks-hell-meet-comey-monday?amp

lionheart · 22/05/2017 08:09

I am not sure how his base will take all this (I try to avoid their watering holes as much as possible). The hellfire dimension to his speech was probably, in part, an attempt to appeal to the right-wing Evangelicals.

I don't think 'religious pluralism' is their bag. Smile

If the appeal depends on the $$$$ then the contracts will have to survive some close scrunity and the fact that he said, in his muddle, that he had helped the Saudis achieve the best deal with US companies. Not so much 'America First' after all.

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lionheart · 22/05/2017 08:11

There is this horror.

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A College Park student who's a member of "Alt Reich" Fb group killed Bowie St student Richard Collins, an Army Lt, in unprovoked attack

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lionheart · 22/05/2017 08:12

and then this attempt to manufacture outrage:

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Sean Hannity Retweeted Kim Dotcom
Congress, investigate Seth Rich Murder! @JulianAssange made comments u need to listen to! If Seth was wiki source, no Trump/Russia collusion

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NaiceBiscuits · 22/05/2017 08:16

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saffronwblue · 22/05/2017 08:57

Sorry Mortificado I was working today!
45 is exhausted after one day's work. Do you think we could be moving towards honourable retirement on health ground? Although honourable is the last word I would associate with him.

PerkingFaintly · 22/05/2017 09:15

Thanks for the warning, Naice.

Yes, I saw some Russian tweet or user-comment yelling "Look over there" about Seth Rich. With the usual "It's a conspiracy that the mainstream media aren't headlining this."

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/05/2017 09:57

Elliott Lusztig‏ @ezlusztig 10m10 minutes ago
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Mississippi GOP Rep calls for LYNCHING anyone threatening Confederate monuments.

Timely reminder of why we should take them down.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/05/2017 10:22

There's a thread about the murder of Lt RIchard Collins that you can find here:

twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/866570845510041602

There are links and subtweets attached to the thread that I can't quite manage (I'll try and put the subtweets put in square brackets) but the bulk of the text is below:

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Please. Pay. Attention. To. This. --> White nationalists believe Trump "has been nudging them to commit violence."

[2nd Lt. Richard Collins III was brutally murdered this wknd by a member of racist 'Alt Reich: Nation' Facebook group]

When extremists believe POTUS has their back, they become emboldened to engage in more frequent & extreme act

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"Donald Trump is setting us free." - white supremacist/editor of the neo-Nazi site Daily Stormer.]

Young white men are being radicalized online. But Trump & Sessions are too busy demonizing immigrants to notice/care

Relevant context --> You're more than 7X as likely to be killed by a right-wing extremist than by Muslim terrorists

thinkprogress.org/you-are-more-than-7-times-as-likely-to-be-killed-by-a-right-wing-extremist-than-by-muslim-terrorists-417f3c3461db

TheClaws · 22/05/2017 10:34

Saffron wasn't he so tired he couldn't give a speech? In fact, Ivanka stepped in and gave the speech on his behalf? Sorry, that is just wrong. IMO. Isn't that grounds enough to say he isn't up to the demands of the position? Allowing his daughter to be the de facto POTUS while he has a nap?

OhYouBadBadKitten · 22/05/2017 10:36

Thanks for the warning Naice, seems ok on mine but will keep an eye out.

hackmum · 22/05/2017 10:38

saffronwblue: "45 is exhausted after one day's work. Do you think we could be moving towards honourable retirement on health ground?"

I think that's much the easiest way out - much simpler than impeachment.

As has already been pointed out, he kept attacking Hillary for lacking the stamina necessary to do the job. It's yet another uncanny example of the way that every attack on her was based on his own flaws - inexperienced, underqualified, corrupt, in the pocket of big business etc.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/05/2017 10:46

This is worrying - I completely understand the strength of feeling people have towards the GOP but resorting to violence is never good.

thehill.com/homenews/house/334333-republicans-fearing-for-their-safety-as-anger-threats-mount

Does anyone know if Republicans have ever been on the receiving end of this before?

lionheart · 22/05/2017 11:00

Thanks Naice.

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PerkingFaintly · 22/05/2017 11:22

Thank's for that news of the murder of Lt Richard Collins by white supremacists.

I'm going to need to digest all that.Sad

PerkingFaintly · 22/05/2017 11:25

I suspect Ivanka has been de facto POTUS for a while. Not 24 hours a day, maybe, but filling in significant gaps.

That also fits with the way 45 sheds stuff to Jared when he's bored and the wall isn't proving quick.

PerkingFaintly · 22/05/2017 11:32

And elected political representatives being threatened with physical violence is also not OK.

When their political moves are threatening people's lives, I understand why those people threaten personal violence back. But it's not a good path for a country to find itself on.

And it all turns the temperature up - which is what disruptivists want.

lionheart · 22/05/2017 11:39

It helps nothing and no-one, that's for sure.

This is shocking in a different way:

www.philly.com/philly/columnists/mike_newall/opioid-crisis-Needle-Park-McPherson-narcan.html?mobi=true

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lionheart · 22/05/2017 11:42

What ethics policy?

www.nytimes.com/2017/04/15/us/politics/trump-appointees-potential-conflicts.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0/

How is this this web of connection and corruption ever going to be untangled?

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