To use the disabled loo when I'm with my son?

[RestingBitch]

My sons 9 months and obviously still in his pushchair. The majority of the time it's just me and him when I go into town/visit places. When I need the loo I get an attack of conscious, I normally use the disabled loo so I can bring him in with me.
Can't use a regular loo as I can't get him in the cubicle in his chair. Don't want to take him out of his pushchair and plonk him on the floor as the floors are manky and he will eat whatever is on the floor. He'll also probably try and crawl under the gap and interrupt someone else. Don't really like the idea of leaving him in his pushchair whilst I nip in the cubicle, so providing there isn't someone waiting for the disabled loos, AIBU to use them? I'm usually in and out and so far I've never encountered anyone waiting for one, or the impatient rattle of the door. If I am being unreasonable, short of pissing myself what's the options?

Not a troll, and don't work for any newspapers :).

It fucking is simple. If you are not disabled, don't use a disabled toilet.

What about that is hard to understand?

I was awarded lifetime dla for my disorders and anxieties. It was a bloody fight when the system changed. That award notice does not mean my anxiety is higher than strawberrys or your sons.

The hypocrisy of your snowflake comment

You're entitled to use the DISABLED TOILET if you are DISABLED.

You have lifetime DLA, you are DISABLED, therefore, you can use the DISABLED TOILET.

If you (generic you, "one" has) have a baby, you are not disabled by the act of having a baby, therefore you do not have the right to use the disabled toilet.

You have lifetime DLA, you are DISABLED, therefore, you can use the DISABLED TOILET.

You must know qualifying for DLA is a rubbish measure of whether you're disabled or not.

What solution though DawnDonna? If there is no other toilet with a large enough cubicle or suitable access provided what else can parents do?
I imagine that's why most are accessible toilets as opposed to toilets designated for wheelchair users only.
This all sounds like a hypothetical argument anyway. Where are all these disabled toilets people are concerned over. Other then radar key ones (so a moot point anyway surely) I haven't come across any!

No, but they have the right to use an accessible toilet and one with a baby change facility in it.

Bigger, missed the comment above. Ignore me.

I thought you were suggesting bring on DLA was the standard you had to meet to use a disabled toilet when plenty of disabled people don't qualify due to the whole process being useless.

*It fucking is simple. If you are not disabled, don't use a disabled toilet.

What about that is hard to understand?*

Well clearly it is hard for you to understand.

Someone with diarrhoea.
Someone with a UTI.
An elederly person who has urgency issues.
A mum with a newborn with severe post partum bleeding.

None of these people have disabilities as such but using the disabled toilet for 2 minutes will make their life a lot easier for that moment. The other day I was Ina restaurant where the only normal toilets were upstairs. Would you expect someone with a broken leg to hobble their way up rather than use the disabled loo? You're incredibly blinkered.

Ihave severe anxiety. It's not an accuse to use the disabled toilets seeing as you are able to use the normal toilets.

Excuse not accuse.

Sorry meant not acceptable

Some disabled toliets have changing mats in them as ive said lots before and had been discussed, which is a mother or father using a disabled toliet who are not disabled it is not so black and white, thankfully life isnt just black and white and its about being mindful of a everyone around you.

Yes DLA is a rubbish measure, but it's the one TheTart picked.

I am specifically talking about disabled toilets, not the accessible ones that have baby change signs on the doors.

I'm talking about specific disabled ones (most of which you need to either go to customer services to get a key for or have a radar key)

Accessible toilets, with a baby change sign on the door as well as the wheelchair sign (which irritates the fuck out of me because not all disabilities equal wheelchair) then of course a parent or carer with a baby can use them.

I use the disabled toilet when needed, I have a double buggy so don't have the option of using the end cubicle and leaving the door open.

I'm not going to leave 2 toddlers out of sight and unattended. I've never had an issue, quite often security have offered me the key for the disabled loo without me asking.

As someone asked the silly question if "how many disabled people wet/soil themselves" earlier, I'd like to respond to that with "how many people in the uk have diarrhoea or a UTI at any one time"?

I'm not disputing that. I'm just saying that I recognise other people without that piece of paper are entitled to use the ACCESSIBLE toilets as they are not only for people with disabilities, visible or not. I'd rather not cause someone with anxiety (whether temporary or longboard term) any more difficulty. Most normal parents would Never leave their child unattended for even 30 seconds. It really doesn't matter in the huge scheme of things. Unless you can get arrested for using the ACCESSIBLE toilet without proving you need it more than someone else, then show some compassion.

I didn't say ACCESSIBLE I specifically said DISABLED.

HTH

As someone asked the silly question if "how many disabled people wet/soil themselves" earlier, I'd like to respond to that with "how many people in the uk have diarrhoea or a UTI at any one time"?

Well why is one question sillier than the other?

My child has shat themselves waiting for the toilet when they had to queue. On more than one occasion.

Cross posted with many.

So by that logic only registered disabled should be able to use the accessible toilets? Only long term wheelchair users should get to use the wheelchair space on the bus? Where does the line get drawn?

There's no such thing as DISABLED toilets. They're all accessible.

Having had a really unpleasant experience with my poor child yesterday this is all too close to the bone for me. I am fed up to the back teeth of having to excuse and defend my child and their need to use facilities that are designed for people like them - people with disabilities.

I truly hope from the bottom of my heart that none of you who are using the disabled toilets because you have a baby or babies ever have to go through what they do on a daily basis every day for the rest of their life.

So, reasons that one can use a disabled toilet when there are other facilities available:
Having a baby in a pram
Having a walking child (/ren) who won't fit in the cubicle with you
Having an opposite sex older child who you don't want to use the opposite sex facilities alone
Having a UTI
Having a sickness bug
Needing a poo and not wanting to do it in general facilities
Being old, but not disabled
Being disabled

I'd better start queuing now.

Most accessible toilets double up as a baby change too.
Can't see the problem tbh and I'm a wheelchair user.

Yeah cos all those people are definitely going to be in the same place at the same time aren't they.