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To hate "think 25" guidance

357 replies

FairiesAlwaysWearBlue · 13/05/2017 16:34

Im 28 and look my age! I'm ten years over the legal drinking age and Waitrose wouldn't let me buy a bottle of cider!

Yes I know I should have had ID but I don't drive so no license and I don't often have my passport with me.

I was looking forward to my bottle of cider as a treat for working hard in the library earlier today.

Yes you should protect underage children from buying alcohol but IABU to be annoyed with "think 25" now means everyone needs to show ID?

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BasketOfDeplorables · 13/05/2017 17:11

Devil - this one always annoys me. Challenge 25 applies to alcohol only, not other age restricted products, but shops choose to add these things to their Challenge 25 procedures for no reason I can fathom. Supermarkets also do it for otc medication that has no age restriction. So a child can buy it, legally, but I'm in my early 30s and have to take my passport to buy fucking calpol.

luckylucky24 · 13/05/2017 17:12

I find people are too scared to take the risk with the think 25 rule. Me (27) and DH (31) were ID in Waitrose last week. We had a one year old with us and were buying pastries and coffee with our booze FFS. How likely is it that we are underage????

lljkk · 13/05/2017 17:14

I can't tell people's ages at all. Best if I never worked in a pub b/c I would think everyone looked under 25. Be glad you don't live in USA where the rule is anyone who looks under 30 gets carded.

Highalert · 13/05/2017 17:19

I expect that shop assistants hate it more than you, The abuse my DS gets for asking for ID is unreal. Someone actually rang the police in front of him the other day because he refused to serve her. i think she must have been a Mumsnetter Grin

Orlantina · 13/05/2017 17:20

If DS picks a Merlot and then uses the self scanner to scan the wine, is that a bad thing?

What I also hate is the "If you're lucky enough to look under 25......."

swimlyn · 13/05/2017 17:21

Namechangingagainagain
Im probably going to get some hate for saying this but it is just another way the over 40's have shafted everyone under 30. However it pales into insignificance against student loans/ debt the housing crisis and zero hours contracts. ( and I say this as someone closer to 40 than 30)

I can’t see your logic here. You seem to be saying ‘the over 40's’ have all got together as a group and shafted you, which is crazy talk.

Do you think we have secret meetings to discuss what to do next to ‘the young’?

Student loans/debt – The government and banks.
The housing crisis – The government and the fat cats.
Zero hours contracts – The government. (tories)

They may well all be ‘over 40’ but that isn’t by any stretch of the imagination the factor that drives them. Age is irrelevant.

specialsubject · 13/05/2017 17:22

Only on mn could people be so over sensitive as to be insulted by being thought younger than they are.

Your disorganisation is not their crisis. Want booze? Carry I d.

LittleMissUpset · 13/05/2017 17:23

So you want me to risk losing my job, having a big fine and possibly going to prison so you don't take offense? Hmm

We have set ID that is acceptable and it's really hard to tell someone's age!

I also have aspergers and hate asking people for ID but hate the thought of doing something wrong even more!

Ginkypig · 13/05/2017 17:23

I was refused even though I did show a passport showing my age as around 15 years above the age limit because it was 2 weeks out of date (my new one hadn't arrived)

I was very annoyed it has my picture and my date of birth which is all the document is needed for in this circumstances so why knock me back?

Orlantina · 13/05/2017 17:24

Do you think we have secret meetings to discuss what to do next to ‘the young

Didn't you get the memo? It takes place after the 'patriarchy' meeting.

PenSylvester · 13/05/2017 17:29

I do carry ID and still get interrogated and asked for FURTHER ID. I am offended at the implication that I am some kind of scum with a 5 year old daughter at the (perceived) age of FIFTEEN! It is not flattering.

crazycatgal · 13/05/2017 17:29

One time I was ID'd when buying a scratch card, I'm 23 and clearly don't look under 16. Sometimes I think common sense is needed.

PurpleDaisies · 13/05/2017 17:30

Wow. What's with all the snobbery about teen mums? Scum is a horrible word to use about them.Biscuit

swimlyn · 13/05/2017 17:30

Orlantina
Grin Grin Grin

isthistoonosy · 13/05/2017 17:30

10 yrs ago it was a compliment and the cashier would always say something like cricky you don't look 18 let alone 28, now nearly 10 yrs later its just need ID, ok - just seems weird not to be suprised I'm so old if they felt the need to ID me. Its not a compliment, feels more like they just have to ID one in five, or some such.

GabsAlot · 13/05/2017 17:32

its annoying but theyre told to do it-if they make the wrong decision they could get sacked

it really isnt worth their job

BarbaraofSeville · 13/05/2017 17:32

So you want me to risk losing my job, having a big fine and possibly going to prison so you don't take offense

Oh, not this again. Please tell me what offence has been committed and how many people have been fined or imprisoned for selling alcohol to people who are over 18 but may not look over 25.

Thankfully I do now look over 25, but I was well into my late 30s the last time I was IDd and refused service because I could not prove I was over 25, even though everyone was happy I was over 18 so no offence was being committed.

Sparklingbrook · 13/05/2017 17:32

There are only specific IDs that are accepted, and they need to be current and valid.

There are spot checks done on shop staff to see if they are abiding by the Think 25 stuff. The cashier can get an on the spot fine and the company can lose their licence to sell alcohol if they get it wrong.

I feel for the cashiers having to judge but a lot is at stake. Just have your ID ready.

Plunkette · 13/05/2017 17:32

I live in the USA Fairies I have to show ID every time I buy alcohol in the supermarket.

I look good for my age but no one would mistake me for 21. Grin They just everyone and save problems.

PenSylvester · 13/05/2017 17:33

Hmm that's not my opinion, that's the way some of these shopkeepers treat me. I have nothing against teen mothers, and I was very close to being one myself. My own parents were teen parents.
I'm just pointing out the absurdity of assuming I am 15 when I very clearly have a school age child who has a refrain of "mummy mummy mummy"

Perhaps the wrong word to use, but it was the implication.

GabsAlot · 13/05/2017 17:34

oh yes my dh was asked for id in america

it was hilarious he has always looked about ten year older than he is he took it a a compliment

FairiesAlwaysWearBlue · 13/05/2017 17:35

No @LittleMissUpset I don't want you to lose your job, but neither did I wish to be embarrassed by a member of staff. I showed my Uni, work and Library ID cards and credit cards. A bit of common sense wouldn't have gone amiss. And the law is you can't sell to under 18s, not that ID is required.

"think 21" just about makes sense. But "think 25", nope. You might as well change the law to say ID is required when purchasing alcohol.

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C0untDucku1a · 13/05/2017 17:36

I gor asked for id in teaco recently. I frantically checked my purse and couldnt find my licence. She called someone else ober who looked me up and doen then said 'yes'. By this point i was bright red. He asked how old i am. 39. Ive been legally able to buy alcohol longer than i havent.

FairiesAlwaysWearBlue · 13/05/2017 17:37

Also it's not a requirement to carry ID in the Uk. Many people don't have ID.

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Sirzy · 13/05/2017 17:37

I am 33 I still get IDed under challenge 25 sometimes. If I don't have Id that's my problem not the staffs.

If they have any doubts then they are right not to serve. So many people look much older than they are, especially the 16-20 type age groups that I can fully understand the need to be over cautious - better that then find yourself with a massive fine and no job at best, prison at worst

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