To think medical evidence is the key to PIP / ESA

[LovelyBath77]

Just this really. It seems to be having gone through it all, that if you have good medical letters etc from consultants and things like a care plan and prescription copies, it makes it all so much easier and there is less for them to argue with.

The thing that irritates me is that if you want to record your assessment, whatever you record it on must be able to immediately produce 2 identical copies of the recording, one of which you must surrender to them before you leave.

If they had nothing to hide, they would just say that you can, with the consent of the assessor, surely?

It helps at tribunal stage. Maybe 50/50 before that. Some people give in a stupid amount of evidence and still get 0 points at assessment, 0 points at reconsideration but then go on to get highest raters for both once a tribunal views it.

Pixie
In that case your perfectly justified in appealing
as the assessor is clearly blind & stupid

Magpiemagpie I did appeal, I took it to tribunal and I still lost. The Judge said I cant possibly have problems with my cognitive ability (one of my issues is being ridiculously forgetful)and that my neurological condition cant affect me too much 'because I went to uni'. I came out of that tribunal feeling like a right fraud, stress of it all meant I ahem, lost control of my bowels and I had to leg it/hobble as fast as I could to the nearest loos, whilst my Dad waited for me. Then I had another depressive episode afterwards so I was too ill to take it any further. After then bring rushed into resus with my asthma a few months later and being in and out of hospital. I'm glad I decided to had to put my health first.

I have applied for PIP again on the advice of others, but I am not expecting miracles. If I get turned down again I'll just accept it for what it is. I'm not sure my body or my mental health literally could cope with any further stress thrown on it.

Thanks, yes I agree Wanking, it helped me with a paper appeal there's no way could have got it otherwise. it might depend n what it is though, mine was very specific as to the conditions severity and that more treatment was making things worse, not better, and that they were concerned and needed the care plans for support. etc, so more helpful than say just scans and tests results.

Away I had similar comments about cognitive ability as went to uni and trained as a teacher, which was before the problems started. I'm sorry to hear how they treated you- you'd think the tribunals would be better than DWP.

helps at tribunal stage. Maybe 50/50 before that. Some people give in a stupid amount of evidence and still get 0 points at assessment, 0 points at reconsideration but then go on to get highest raters for both once a tribunal views it.
This.
I had stupid amounts of evidence from everyone and still was turned down because the cow lied.
It doesn't matter how much evidence you have if you have a dodgy assessor.
I realised after my tribunal why she lied about certain questions, and made things up for others as those were the ones i was awarded top marks for.