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[shylock]

I have a question.

Awww, I love my ugly children.

Anna - that is actually quite hurtful to a lot of posters on this site.

It really is beyond rude

It is highly regrettable that your definition of beauty does not encompass inner good. To act and behave in a way to others that considers that everyone may not have been dealt the same hand in life.

Really - you should be thoroughly ashamed of youself - it is rare to see such UGLY behaviour on MN!

i have a bastard husband who speaks ugly english, does that count?

Huh? That book appears to be about dating and sex, not art and accents.

soapbox - a lot of people have expended a lot of energy in this discussion defending ugliness. What is rude about saying that that is OK for them (but not for me)?

[ignoring Anna8888's last post, re: ugly children etc]

Not "defending ugliness" - pointing out that what is ugly is largely, if not completely, subjective (though of course to just what extent still scientifically debatable).

If you think all of what I've been saying boils down to "defending ugliness", you certainly don't have a scientific mind yourself.

how come shakespeare and his contemporaries haven't put in an appearance?

or burns

or books like how late it was how late

or even the canterbury tales

when talking about language and beauty

Anna - you are clearly not just displaying ugly behaviour but also being obtrusive/deliberately thick!

HATE james kelman's writing. hate it.

ah now I think that is a brilliant book

No, you are all being "thick". Nowhere did I say beauty = good, ugly = bad. That's what you chose to read into what I said. I did not make a value judgement.

not for me. i got a headache by page 5. i really don't like wading through piles of passive.

So ugly can be good then Anna?

anna you are a card, really you are. ae you a namechanger or have you just appeared, fully formed and ready to rock MN?

ROFL at thought of Anna8888's life in her beautiful house in a beautiful town with beautiful children and beautiful husband who all speak beautiful English. Sounds lovely.

Feel free to come round here when you need to do ugly useful things like supermarket shopping, having the car MOT'd, taking the DCs to A&E with mystery rashes and taking your old and no longer perfectly beautiful sofa to the tip.

I said: no value judgements. Beauty makes ME happy (and lots of people I know) and therefore I encourage it around me.

If ugliness makes YOU happy - so be it.

Yes, beautiful apartment, beautiful daughter, gorgeous partner, lovely furniture, etc

We speak French mostly though.

Well I read somewhere that Eurasion people are considered the most attractive because they are attractive to both Asians and Caucasians, the two groups together making up the majority of the population. Or something equally scientific.

Therefore I feel justified in saying that my (Eurasian) children are beautiful and everyone else must be ugly.

How's that for political (in)correctness?

judging by your behaviour today, anna, i think i might find your idea of beauty a bit on the ugly side.

HOOTING WITH LAUGHTER AT "NO VALUE JUDGEMENTS"!

Keep 'em coming Anna

But Anna - if it made us happy we'd think it was beautiful

not read the whole thread but 1 can be put down to accent though I don't like it - 2 is just wrong in any dialect.

I had three qualified accountants - all educated people - say it to me during a job interview and none of them got the job.

Sorry if I made you feel stupid.

exactly, soapy. maybe anna's the poor deluded fool.